From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,FREEMAIL_FROM autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII X-Google-Thread: 103376,88ed72d98e6b3457 X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public X-Google-ArrivalTime: 2003-10-10 12:22:19 PST Path: archiver1.google.com!news2.google.com!news.maxwell.syr.edu!newshosting.com!news-xfer1.atl.newshosting.com!newsfeed-east.nntpserver.com!nntpserver.com!small1.nntp.aus1.giganews.com!border3.nntp.aus1.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!wn14feed!worldnet.att.net!204.127.198.203!attbi_feed3!attbi.com!rwcrnsc53.POSTED!not-for-mail Message-ID: <3F8706CA.7040704@comcast.net> From: "Robert I. Eachus" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.0; en-US; rv:1.0.2) Gecko/20021120 Netscape/7.01 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Subject: Re: Standard Library Interest? References: <3F7F760E.2020901@comcast.net> <3F8035B0.7080902@noplace.com> <3F816A35.4030108@noplace.com> <3F81FBEC.9010103@noplace.com> <6Ingb.30667$541.13861@nwrdny02.gnilink.net> <3F82B4A4.5060301@noplace.com> <3F82F527.3020101@noplace.com> <3F836528.9020906@noplace.com> <3F8557C1.7090704@noplace.com> <3F86241A.4000409@comcast.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit NNTP-Posting-Host: 24.34.139.183 X-Complaints-To: abuse@comcast.net X-Trace: rwcrnsc53 1065813738 24.34.139.183 (Fri, 10 Oct 2003 19:22:18 GMT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 10 Oct 2003 19:22:18 GMT Organization: Comcast Online Date: Fri, 10 Oct 2003 19:22:18 GMT Xref: archiver1.google.com comp.lang.ada:643 Date: 2003-10-10T19:22:18+00:00 List-Id: Stephane Richard wrote: > However I think we should have a basis for a structure to suggest first. So > on your other post to Martin, when you say to create a structure of names > (atleast) I'd say you're right :-)..if not anything else, a text file that > represents an image of a possible end product perhaps? That wouldn't be too > long too do. Atleast we'd all see (and be able to agree on) a given layout. > For that I have to agreewith you :-). It would be nice to have a good proposal and presentation in shape for the WG9 meeting in San Diego, and get it on the agenda. As I have said, I think the right approach is to keep the standards related part of this small: An on-line registry of top-level library names. But notice that once you go the standards route, there are potential political issues hiding all around. In this case, I think the right approach is to have a registry which for all practical purposes is a de facto listing of all the library names that are being used. But the "official" list would have to pass up the approval chain through WG9 every so often, and there would have to be procedures for dealing with conflicting registrations and so on. In other words, a search of the list would return all known names that matched, with probably a one word status: Registered, Pending, Rejected, Withdrawn, Unknown, Delisted. If I were doing it I would probably set up a nominal registration fee for top level names. It should be small enough not to pain those who are doing the registration to contribute to the community, and high-enough so that if a cyber-squatter wants to try it, he can fund the whole operation, including the clerical overhead of rejecting most or all of his requests. ;-) Or we could just have a rule about the number of top level libraries registered by one person or corporation. If we work at it, it could be in place and working by the San Diego meeting on a provisional basis, then Marin can file a registration application for CAL that states the current contents and the rules for adding to it. St�phane can register SAL, ACT can register GNAT, and so on. (If I get a vote on who gets approved, I'm going to look for libraries that exist, are well documented, include unit tests, and are useful. So get busy. ;-) -- Robert I. Eachus "Quality is the Buddha. Quality is scientific reality. Quality is the goal of Art. It remains to work these concepts into a practical, down-to-earth context, and for this there is nothing more practical or down-to-earth than what I have been talking about all along...the repair of an old motorcycle." -- from Zen and the Art of Motorcycle Maintenance by Robert Pirsig