From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,FREEMAIL_FROM autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 103376,88ed72d98e6b3457 X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public X-Google-ArrivalTime: 2003-10-09 20:15:17 PST Path: archiver1.google.com!news2.google.com!news.maxwell.syr.edu!newsfeed.mathworks.com!wn13feed!wn11feed!worldnet.att.net!204.127.198.203!attbi_feed3!attbi.com!rwcrnsc52.ops.asp.att.net.POSTED!not-for-mail Message-ID: <3F86241A.4000409@comcast.net> From: "Robert I. Eachus" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.0; en-US; rv:1.0.2) Gecko/20021120 Netscape/7.01 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Subject: Re: Standard Library Interest? References: <3F7F760E.2020901@comcast.net> <3F8035B0.7080902@noplace.com> <3F816A35.4030108@noplace.com> <3F81FBEC.9010103@noplace.com> <6Ingb.30667$541.13861@nwrdny02.gnilink.net> <3F82B4A4.5060301@noplace.com> <3F82F527.3020101@noplace.com> <3F836528.9020906@noplace.com> <3F8557C1.7090704@noplace.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit NNTP-Posting-Host: 24.34.139.183 X-Complaints-To: abuse@comcast.net X-Trace: rwcrnsc52.ops.asp.att.net 1065755704 24.34.139.183 (Fri, 10 Oct 2003 03:15:04 GMT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 10 Oct 2003 03:15:04 GMT Organization: Comcast Online Date: Fri, 10 Oct 2003 03:15:16 GMT Xref: archiver1.google.com comp.lang.ada:572 Date: 2003-10-10T03:15:16+00:00 List-Id: Stephane Richard wrote: >>Except that this didn't answer my question: Is the APIWG seeing itself >>as being in the business of building a library or just endorsing package >>specs? > > the do API's only. He showed interest of data structures, components, but > it would be another group that would be taking care of it. What he did say > is that which group it is (which I will find out) he believed that they > would > prove quite cooperative on the effort. > > >>All the stuff you mentioned about "Standards" is valid and I have no >>complaint. At best, I can read into it that the APIWG might put their >>Nihil Obstat on some library - if and when it had some "general >>acceptance". Which is to say, they are not in the business of building >>and maintaining a library and don't particularly want to be. That moves >>the library mission forward only by a tiny bit - if at all. It is as I >>suspected - the APIWG is not going to be the place to get this done. >> > > Nope, I alerady replied him with the "Who is it then?" question hopefully > today I'll get a reply and we can find out. from what I'm seeing it's one > of > 7 possible groups: > - ARG - Ada Rapporteur Group > - ASISRG - Ada Semantics Interface Specification (ASIS) Rapporteur Group > - HRG - Annex H Rapporteur Group > - NRG - Numerics Rapporteur Group > - RRG - Real-Time Rapporteur Group > - SRG - SQL/Ada Rapporteur Group > - URG - Uniformity Rapporteur Group As far as I know at the current time only the ARG, ASISRG, HRG, and RRG still exist. But I'd have to check... That was quick. http://wwwold.dkuug.dk/JTC1/SC22/WG9/organize.htm#RGs Cross out the RRG as well. > I'm thinking ARG yes since they seem to deal with Ada in general and not be > limited to a single or group of Annexes. URG? I don't but perhaps they > would have valuable information as to how to "create the code" a style > guide, a minimal documentation template or something like that to help > assure a minimal quality of code in the library. Please don't assign it to the ARG. The ARG always has much more work than they can handle. Bringing back the URG or some new group would be a better idea. -- Robert I. Eachus "Quality is the Buddha. Quality is scientific reality. Quality is the goal of Art. It remains to work these concepts into a practical, down-to-earth context, and for this there is nothing more practical or down-to-earth than what I have been talking about all along...the repair of an old motorcycle." -- from Zen and the Art of Motorcycle Maintenance by Robert Pirsig