From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 103376,88ed72d98e6b3457 X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public X-Google-ArrivalTime: 2003-10-09 05:57:26 PST Path: archiver1.google.com!news1.google.com!newsfeed.stanford.edu!cyclone.bc.net!sjc70.webusenet.com!news.webusenet.com!elnk-nf2-pas!newsfeed.earthlink.net!stamper.news.pas.earthlink.net!stamper.news.atl.earthlink.net!newsread1.news.atl.earthlink.net.POSTED!not-for-mail Message-ID: <3F855B34.7050101@noplace.com> From: Marin David Condic User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.0.1) Gecko/20020823 Netscape/7.0 (OEM-HPQ-PRS1C03) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Subject: Re: Standard Library Interest? References: <3F803278.1020507@noplace.com> <3F82213C.4070009@comcast.net> <3F847A71.8000003@comcast.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Thu, 09 Oct 2003 12:57:26 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 209.165.26.89 X-Complaints-To: abuse@earthlink.net X-Trace: newsread1.news.atl.earthlink.net 1065704246 209.165.26.89 (Thu, 09 Oct 2003 05:57:26 PDT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 09 Oct 2003 05:57:26 PDT Organization: EarthLink Inc. -- http://www.EarthLink.net Xref: archiver1.google.com comp.lang.ada:532 Date: 2003-10-09T12:57:26+00:00 List-Id: Absolutely! Yeah Verrily! Amen! If Ada doesn't provide it then why use Ada? Saying "Here's a binding..." is just saying "Me too!!!" without really providing a one-stop shopping experience to the customer or offering anything more than what the other guy has. It means "Go get yourself a Fortran compiler as well as an Ada compiler..." and the end user starts wondering why bother with Ada when it is really Fortran (or C or C++ or Java) that is giving him all the *real* functionality he needs. It means you're always one step behind the guy who you're binding to - he keeps offering something new and you have to lag behind adding the binding after the native-language speakers have already got it. If Ada wants some kind of math library and "BLAS" is the math library to have, then Ada ought to implement BLAS - and maybe even take it in new directions providing *more* value to the end user. (I believe the term is "Embrace and Extend" ;-) Otherwise the BLAS afficianados don't have much reason to select Ada as their language of implementation. MDC Robert I. Eachus wrote: > users.) But much more important is to go from "here is a BLAS binding" > to "Ada compilers provide the BLAS libraries," and users don't have to > compile the Fortran, or worry about finding (or creating) and binding in > a BLAS implementation. > -- ====================================================================== Marin David Condic I work for: http://www.belcan.com/ My project is: http://www.jsf.mil/NSFrames.htm Send Replies To: m c o n d i c @ a c m . o r g "All reformers, however strict their social conscience, live in houses just as big as they can pay for." --Logan Pearsall Smith ======================================================================