From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 103376,88ed72d98e6b3457 X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public X-Google-ArrivalTime: 2003-10-06 06:37:30 PST Path: archiver1.google.com!news1.google.com!newsfeed.stanford.edu!headwall.stanford.edu!newshub.sdsu.edu!elnk-nf2-pas!newsfeed.earthlink.net!stamper.news.pas.earthlink.net!stamper.news.atl.earthlink.net!newsread2.news.atl.earthlink.net.POSTED!not-for-mail Message-ID: <3F81700B.1050701@noplace.com> From: Marin David Condic User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.0.1) Gecko/20020823 Netscape/7.0 (OEM-HPQ-PRS1C03) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Subject: Re: Standard Library Interest? References: <3F803278.1020507@noplace.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Mon, 06 Oct 2003 13:37:30 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 209.165.26.175 X-Complaints-To: abuse@earthlink.net X-Trace: newsread2.news.atl.earthlink.net 1065447450 209.165.26.175 (Mon, 06 Oct 2003 09:37:30 EDT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 06 Oct 2003 09:37:30 EDT Organization: EarthLink Inc. -- http://www.EarthLink.net Xref: archiver1.google.com comp.lang.ada:310 Date: 2003-10-06T13:37:30+00:00 List-Id: This is really important: I absolutely *never* said there weren't package out there that can do some/most/all of these things. What I said was that they are NOT "STANDARD" and a bunch of other undesirable characteristics. If there was a willingness to adopt some of these things and declare thenm to be "The Ada Thing", I wouldn't oppose that. I just think we're better off making sure we had a consistent, well documented, common, standard library. MDC Preben Randhol wrote: > On 2003-10-05, Marin David Condic wrote: > >>The short form from my response in the other thread... > > > The current state is that we have: > (I'm just putting in what I can remember so others can fill in the > blanks and add alternatives) > > >>1) Containers (probably on the way within the standard, but possibly we >>might find some things not covered...) > > > Charles > SAL > > >>2) Math/Statistics - Vectors, Matrices, Big number math, Symbolic >>algebra, Stats,.... >> >>3) Related to Math: Encryption/Decryption, Compression/Decompression of >>streams. > > > Compression/Decomression there is a zlib binding and zip if I remember > correctly. However if they work on streams I don't know. Files at least. > > >>4) Control Laws operations > > > What is this? > > >>5) OS Interfacing (including file formats) > > > and config files. > > >>6) Internet communication protocols > > > AWS > Libra > > >>7) Database interface - or even a database itself. > > > Gnade > APQ > > >>8) XML Document Object Model (one that uses tagged records, please.) > > > AdaXML (yes I know) > > >>9) Desktop apps > > > What do you mean with desktop apps in a standard library? Anyway I'm > going to finish my work on a template for making GUIs (GtkAda) for > applications later this year. > > >>10) GUI interface > > > GtkAda > > 11) Multimedia - sound and images > > However, I think the way to go is not to try to make a standard library > containing all these things at once. I think the most impostant areas to > cover are the Container, Math, OS interfacing and possibly some of the > internet communication protocols. > > Another important thing is that the code needs to be available so others > can take over if needed. > > Preben -- ====================================================================== Marin David Condic I work for: http://www.belcan.com/ My project is: http://www.jsf.mil/NSFrames.htm Send Replies To: m c o n d i c @ a c m . o r g "All reformers, however strict their social conscience, live in houses just as big as they can pay for." --Logan Pearsall Smith ======================================================================