From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 103376,1116ece181be1aea X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public X-Google-ArrivalTime: 2003-09-17 23:58:41 PST Path: archiver1.google.com!news1.google.com!newsfeed.stanford.edu!newsmi-us.news.garr.it!newsmi-eu.news.garr.it!NewsITBone-GARR!newsserver.cilea.it!news.crs4.it!not-for-mail From: Jacob Sparre Andersen Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Subject: Re: Is the Writing on the Wall for Ada? Date: Thu, 18 Sep 2003 07:05:04 +0200 Organization: CRS4, Center for Adv. Studies, Research and Development in Sardinia Message-ID: <3F693D00.3020704@crs4.it> References: <3F650BBE.4080107@attbi.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: sparre.crs4.it Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: pietro.crs4.it 1063863746 18235 156.148.70.170 (18 Sep 2003 05:42:26 GMT) X-Complaints-To: news@nntpserver.crs4.it. NNTP-Posting-Date: 18 Sep 2003 05:42:26 GMT User-Agent: Any Browser, HTML 4.01, XHTML 1.0 X-Accept-Language: fo, da, no, sv, is, fr, de, it, In-Reply-To: Xref: archiver1.google.com comp.lang.ada:42651 Date: 2003-09-18T05:42:26+00:00 List-Id: Russ wrote: > Mr. Eachus, you are probably a top-notch programmer and/or software > engineer, but I don't think your example has much bearing on whether > Ada should or should not have augmented assignment operators. I think Robert made a fairly good explanation of why they aren't needed as syntactic sugar. > As every competent C++ programmer > knows, augmented assignment also allows more efficient vector/matrix > operations (for example) by eliminating the need for temporaries. I think I have already demonstrated here (in some earlier thread on this topic) that it is possible, but not completely trivial, to leave this optimisation to the compilers. > And that's why the most popular programming languages have augmented > assignment operators. But Ada doesn't want to be popular, I guess. Ada is not designed to be popular. It is designed to make programs that work. Also after 30 years of system maintenance. Jacob PS: I can't find a link to an English language version of the guidelines for using quotes on Usenet right now (writing this off-line), but I would appreciate it, if people taking part in the discussions here on comp.lang.ada took a look at them and tried to follow the advice. -- Rent-a-Minion Inc. Because good help is so hard to find.