From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII X-Google-Thread: 103376,38fc011071df5a27 X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public X-Google-ArrivalTime: 2003-09-12 05:21:01 PST Path: archiver1.google.com!news1.google.com!newsfeed.stanford.edu!newsmi-us.news.garr.it!newsmi-eu.news.garr.it!NewsITBone-GARR!newsserver.cilea.it!news.crs4.it!not-for-mail From: Jacob Sparre Andersen Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Subject: How to get a =?ISO-8859-1?Q?=BBConventional_Ada_Library=AB_?= =?ISO-8859-1?Q?=28Was=3A_Ideas_for_Ada_200X=29?= Date: Fri, 12 Sep 2003 14:20:56 +0200 Organization: CRS4, Center for Adv. Studies, Research and Development in Sardinia Message-ID: <3F61BA28.3060507@crs4.it> References: <6a90b886.0305262344.1d558079@posting.google.com> <3ED4A94C.2020501@noplace.com> <3ED6A852.75AC0133@adaworks.com> <3ED74ED3.4020505@noplace.com> <3ED7C8C5.3070902@cogeco.ca> <3ED826BB.9010509@noplace.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: sparre.crs4.it Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: pietro.crs4.it 1063364678 25023 156.148.70.170 (12 Sep 2003 11:04:38 GMT) X-Complaints-To: news@nntpserver.crs4.it. NNTP-Posting-Date: 12 Sep 2003 11:04:38 GMT User-Agent: Any Browser, HTML 4.01, XHTML 1.0 X-Accept-Language: fo, da, no, sv, is, fr, de, it, In-Reply-To: <3ED826BB.9010509@noplace.com> Xref: archiver1.google.com comp.lang.ada:42407 Date: 2003-09-12T11:04:38+00:00 List-Id: Marin David Condic wrote: > Well, I won't say it *can't* work - just that it has been tried in a few > different ways and guess what? We don't have a Conventional Ada Library. > > If the thing has zero interest from the vendors it will become Just > Another Ada Library like the half-dozen or so that are already out > there. Yes, but... > A small teem of developers might be able to do a good job of > building a library - even if they were volunteers - but it would need > some direction from those who have to adopt it as "The Right Thing". > Think "Requirements" - someone has to impose some. If we can't get the compiler vendors (or ARA) to come up with some requirements, wouldn't it be a viable alternative to get Ada Europe and SIGAda to create a common working group for writing the requirements (and specifications?) for a �Conventional Ada Library�? Of course Ada Europe and SIGAda do not have the same easy way to force a library on the programmers as the compiler vendors, but I can't think of any better solution right now. > A group of enthusiasts sounds plausable, but I believe that unless it > has some cloak of "officialness" to it, some acceptance on the part of > the vendors and some sort of charter/requirements to work to, it will > either fall apart or produce Just Another Ada Library. Ada Europe and SIGAda _do_ have a cloak of "officialness". The question is if it is sufficiently convincing. Jacob -- "This page inadvertently left blank."