From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 103376,cec04f9d45b3f527 X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public X-Google-ArrivalTime: 2003-08-31 09:10:39 PST Path: archiver1.google.com!news1.google.com!newsfeed.stanford.edu!logbridge.uoregon.edu!newshub.sdsu.edu!elnk-nf2-pas!newsfeed.earthlink.net!stamper.news.pas.earthlink.net!stamper.news.atl.earthlink.net!newsread2.news.atl.earthlink.net.POSTED!not-for-mail Message-ID: <3F521DF1.4040002@noplace.com> From: Marin David Condic User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.0.1) Gecko/20020823 Netscape/7.0 (OEM-HPQ-PRS1C03) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Subject: Re: An Ada advocacy method References: <3F4F4817.7030306@noplace.com> <3F50130A.1070406@noplace.com> <3F50A70E.7050809@noplace.com> <3F51FB65.4090904@noplace.com> <3F52148A.9030104@attbi.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Sun, 31 Aug 2003 16:10:39 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 209.165.4.116 X-Complaints-To: abuse@earthlink.net X-Trace: newsread2.news.atl.earthlink.net 1062346239 209.165.4.116 (Sun, 31 Aug 2003 12:10:39 EDT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 31 Aug 2003 12:10:39 EDT Organization: EarthLink Inc. -- http://www.EarthLink.net Xref: archiver1.google.com comp.lang.ada:42010 Date: 2003-08-31T16:10:39+00:00 List-Id: Well, MSVC++ was still C++ and was as buggy and clumsy as many other Microsoft things, so I'd not try to hold it up as the ultimate IDE or otherwise declare it to be the Best Of All Possible Universes. What I would say is that it provides a good example of how parts of an IDE can be tightly integrated and how having all those capabilities working together can make development more efficient. Ultimately, you can't have the tightest possible integration of the variety of tools available without making it difficult or impossible to substitute some other tool into the mix. Ex: If I want the GUI builder to generate application code for me, its going to end up dependent on what the compiler is capable of and what is available in the library. I can't just yank out the compiler or library and put something else in its place and still expect the GUI builder to go along fat, dumb and happy, not noticing that what it needed is no longer there. MDC Robert I. Eachus wrote: > > > My 'fondest' memories of MSVC++ are typing several lines of compiler > options, linker options, and search paths into windows that were one > line by maybe 20 characters long. You could do it, and scan through it > to eliminate typos. But you could really tell that Microsoft was trying > to send you a message about linking in foreign software. > -- ====================================================================== Marin David Condic I work for: http://www.belcan.com/ My project is: http://www.jast.mil/ Send Replies To: m c o n d i c @ a c m . o r g "In general the art of government consists in taking as much money as possible from one class of citizens to give to the other." -- Voltaire ======================================================================