From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 103376,cec04f9d45b3f527 X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public X-Google-ArrivalTime: 2003-08-30 06:31:07 PST Path: archiver1.google.com!news1.google.com!newsfeed.stanford.edu!logbridge.uoregon.edu!newshub.sdsu.edu!elnk-nf2-pas!newsfeed.earthlink.net!stamper.news.pas.earthlink.net!stamper.news.atl.earthlink.net!newsread1.news.atl.earthlink.net.POSTED!not-for-mail Message-ID: <3F50A70E.7050809@noplace.com> From: Marin David Condic User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.0.1) Gecko/20020823 Netscape/7.0 (OEM-HPQ-PRS1C03) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Subject: Re: An Ada advocacy method References: <3F4F4817.7030306@noplace.com> <3F50130A.1070406@noplace.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Sat, 30 Aug 2003 13:31:06 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 209.165.0.192 X-Complaints-To: abuse@earthlink.net X-Trace: newsread1.news.atl.earthlink.net 1062250266 209.165.0.192 (Sat, 30 Aug 2003 06:31:06 PDT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 30 Aug 2003 06:31:06 PDT Organization: EarthLink Inc. -- http://www.EarthLink.net Xref: archiver1.google.com comp.lang.ada:41981 Date: 2003-08-30T13:31:06+00:00 List-Id: Well, I don't know everything about every software development kit on the planet, but I did use MSVC++ long enough to have seen that it had some really spiffy capabilities. I won't defend its overall quality, but I'd recommend that if someone wanted to build an Ada development kit that they buy MSVC++ and spend some time learning what it can do. I have *never* heard of any Ada development kit that out-of-the-box provides as many capabilities (although GPS looks like it has potential) and is as nicely integrated as MSVC++. There might be other environments that exceed MSVC++ - like I said: I don't know about all IDEs in the universe. But it sure has a lot going for it that Ada would have to work to catch up with. (The MFC alone would be a *major* capability enhancement should Ada have something like it. And an Ada standard library would likely be far more capable since a large chunk of the MFC is devoted to fixing weaknesses in C++ that Ada doesn't have.) Most of the pieces are there - they just need to be brought together into a single package and made to work together. ACT stands a descent chance of doing this with GPS, GtkAda, gdb and maybe some other stuff. (Like a database? Certainly a library.) The thing is, I'd like to see Ada have *some* of these components/capabilities "Standard" across implementations. MDC Wes Groleau wrote: > Marin David Condic wrote: > >> (Wait a minute... Wes: Is this a troll? :-) > > > Uh, could be ... > > Hey, Mac fans! How much of what Marin asked for > is in the OS X Deb Kit plus GNAT ? > -- ====================================================================== Marin David Condic I work for: http://www.belcan.com/ My project is: http://www.jast.mil/ Send Replies To: m c o n d i c @ a c m . o r g "In general the art of government consists in taking as much money as possible from one class of citizens to give to the other." -- Voltaire ======================================================================