From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 103376,52a0bacbcdd2da17 X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public X-Google-ArrivalTime: 2003-08-16 04:23:37 PST Path: archiver1.google.com!news1.google.com!newsfeed.stanford.edu!news-spur1.maxwell.syr.edu!news.maxwell.syr.edu!news.he.net!newsfeed1.easynews.com!easynews.com!easynews!elnk-pas-nf1!newsfeed.earthlink.net!stamper.news.pas.earthlink.net!stamper.news.atl.earthlink.net!harp.news.atl.earthlink.net!not-for-mail From: Marin David Condic Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Subject: Re: Realtime/embedded project to help with employment. Date: Sat, 16 Aug 2003 07:23:33 -0400 Organization: MindSpring Enterprises Message-ID: <3F3E1435.3010205@noplace.com> References: <3F367B39.8060108@noplace.com> <1060611604.45048@master.nyc.kbcfp.com> <3F38DEBC.8040208@noplace.com> <3F3A39E6.1070803@noplace.com> <3F3B8B78.2080803@noplace.com> <3F3CDC1E.2030603@noplace.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: a5.f7.40.9c Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Server-Date: 16 Aug 2003 11:23:37 GMT User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.0.1) Gecko/20020823 Netscape/7.0 (OEM-HPQ-PRS1C03) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en Xref: archiver1.google.com comp.lang.ada:41569 Date: 2003-08-16T11:23:37+00:00 List-Id: Well, I wouldn't say "worse" - the GMGPL has a place in the world. So does the GPL. Please try to understand, I don't "hate" the GPL or think it has no place in the world. I think there are better alternatives for certain sorts of software development efforts. Here's a case - the Gnat compiler. It was originally developed under government contract, so basically I paid for it in the form of my taxes. Having done that, it made sense to allow me to get free access to the work I had already paid for and do so with the GPL. ACT picks it up and got their R&D done at my expense and in return to me as an investor, they occasionally release upgrades and other things. Meanwhile, they can make a profit by selling support, early releases, etc., to their customers. Its perfectly just and equitable, as well as providing all sorts of good marketing tools to ACT and Ada in general. Similarly, the GMGPL has its place in the world. If the libraries in Gnat weren't under the GMGPL, there would be large numbers of potential users who would have to reject their use because they couldn't take the "infection" it would introduce into their own products. So if ACT hopes to get these customers using their compiler, it needs an alternative license. Now if I, as a private individual, build some software that might be generally useful and I want to distribute it widely to start creating a market for it, I'd want something different in the way of a license. I want the distribution aspects of the GPL because it gets people to start using my stuff. But I want to be able to insure that I stand some sort of chance of getting compensated for my sweat equity if my spiffy little program starts looking good from a profit standpoint. I think such a scheme is possible and attractive. But if you want to turn something loose under the GMGPL and let me pick it up and turn it into a billion dollar industry, you're free to do so. I'll be sure to send you a "Thank You" note. :-) MDC Preben Randhol wrote: > > Actually I would probably place some of what I'm making now under GMGPL > which is even worse in your view as then you can snatch it and make a > closed source shrink wrapped commercial program based on this and make > money without giving me a penny :-). But of course not all of it would > be GMGPL :-) > -- ====================================================================== Marin David Condic I work for: http://www.belcan.com/ My project is: http://www.jast.mil/ Send Replies To: m c o n d i c @ a c m . o r g "In general the art of government consists in taking as much money as possible from one class of citizens to give to the other." -- Voltaire ======================================================================