From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 103376,52a0bacbcdd2da17 X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public X-Google-ArrivalTime: 2003-08-14 05:40:41 PST Path: archiver1.google.com!news1.google.com!newsfeed.stanford.edu!headwall.stanford.edu!newshub.sdsu.edu!elnk-nf2-pas!newsfeed.earthlink.net!stamper.news.pas.earthlink.net!stamper.news.atl.earthlink.net!harp.news.atl.earthlink.net!not-for-mail From: Marin David Condic Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Subject: Re: Realtime/embedded project to help with employment. Date: Thu, 14 Aug 2003 08:40:25 -0400 Organization: MindSpring Enterprises Message-ID: <3F3B8339.7060404@noplace.com> References: <3F367B39.8060108@noplace.com> <1060611604.45048@master.nyc.kbcfp.com> <3F38DEBC.8040208@noplace.com> <1060696097.54858@master.nyc.kbcfp.com> <3F3A306D.4050302@noplace.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: d1.a5.18.a7 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Server-Date: 14 Aug 2003 12:42:46 GMT User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.0.1) Gecko/20020823 Netscape/7.0 (OEM-HPQ-PRS1C03) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en Xref: archiver1.google.com comp.lang.ada:41440 Date: 2003-08-14T12:42:46+00:00 List-Id: And that has absolutely nothing to do with my point. Releasing it under the GPL makes it "legal" and the original artists may have absolutely no grounds to cry about it and so on. I *never* said that they did. What I *did* say was that what you get via the GPL and then use in a for-profit venture represents a contribution to the venture that is not compensated. This is a simple statement of fact that ought to be intuitively obvious to even the most casual observer. I pick up the work of another - something that has value - and use it to make money. That is an uncompensated contribution to a business. People are absolutely free to go do charity work for corporations if they like. I won't stop them. If they want to come over to my house and mow my lawn next weekend, they can do that to. Personally, I'd rather give my charity time to more deserving recipients and give my software development time to those who will offer me compensation. But that's just me. :-) Thanks for the vote of confidence on my musical tastes. ;-) MDC Vinzent Hoefler wrote: > > > Did the bands your talking about release their music under the GPL? > Said, it's free to use and distribute? I don't think so. > BTW, it seems you have a good taste in music. ;) > > >>I'm providing the *exact* same "service" that RedHat >>does and I owe nothing to the original artists? > > > Exactly that *would* be the case. > > BTW, : > > |One more thing.. we now have a copyright notice on the webpage (at the > |very end). This does not mean that you can't download the songs for > |free. Download all you want! Burn CD-R's for your friends! Just don't > |sell them, OK? > > So these people didn't release their music under the GPL, but it's > still free. > > > Vinzent. -- ====================================================================== Marin David Condic I work for: http://www.belcan.com/ My project is: http://www.jast.mil/ Send Replies To: m c o n d i c @ a c m . o r g "In general the art of government consists in taking as much money as possible from one class of citizens to give to the other." -- Voltaire ======================================================================