From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 103376,52a0bacbcdd2da17 X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public X-Google-ArrivalTime: 2003-08-13 06:15:35 PST Path: archiver1.google.com!news1.google.com!newsfeed.stanford.edu!logbridge.uoregon.edu!newshub.sdsu.edu!elnk-nf2-pas!newsfeed.earthlink.net!stamper.news.pas.earthlink.net!stamper.news.atl.earthlink.net!harp.news.atl.earthlink.net!not-for-mail From: Marin David Condic Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Subject: Re: Realtime/embedded project to help with employment. Date: Wed, 13 Aug 2003 09:15:18 -0400 Organization: MindSpring Enterprises Message-ID: <3F3A39E6.1070803@noplace.com> References: <3F367B39.8060108@noplace.com> <1060611604.45048@master.nyc.kbcfp.com> <3F38DEBC.8040208@noplace.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: d1.56.b8.3d Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Server-Date: 13 Aug 2003 13:15:34 GMT User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.0.1) Gecko/20020823 Netscape/7.0 (OEM-HPQ-PRS1C03) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en Xref: archiver1.google.com comp.lang.ada:41384 Date: 2003-08-13T13:15:34+00:00 List-Id: Georg Bauhaus wrote: > > Interesting questions, to be answered empirically, not by implying > world views, are, - "Do they feel like they have to live with some > loss?" - "Do they feel just happy?" - "Is the return higher/lower > than expected, in their view?" - ... > I cannot possibly testify as to how another human being "feels" about anything. Let me be *REALLY* clear about this: There are FAR more important things in life than simply making money. I do *LOTS* of things - including charity - that vastly exceed in importance the making of money. That said, let me now clarify: I write software for a living. That's how I pay the bills. I trade my labor in exchange for fungible assets and everyone wins. Hence, I have a tendency to not want to work for free so that some other party can make money from my labor. That is a kind of "charity" to capitalists that I don't feel the need to make. If I'm going to work for free, perhaps there are more deserving recipients of my charity than RedHat? > > If turned into an evil analogy, you will then be mobsters ;-) > I have no idea what you mean here. I regularly develop software and am compensated for doing so. I give software to my employer and he gives me a paycheck. How is this in any way "evil"? How does this make me a "mobster"? What would you call it if I gave my labor to my employer and he gave me nothing in return? Theft? Fraud? Slavery? Don't those terms denote something far more "evil" than "Free Trade"? MDC -- ====================================================================== Marin David Condic I work for: http://www.belcan.com/ My project is: http://www.jast.mil/ Send Replies To: m c o n d i c @ a c m . o r g "In general the art of government consists in taking as much money as possible from one class of citizens to give to the other." -- Voltaire ======================================================================