From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,CP1252 X-Google-Thread: 103376,d6f7b92fd11ab291 X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public X-Google-ArrivalTime: 2003-07-20 16:06:52 PST Path: archiver1.google.com!news1.google.com!newsfeed.stanford.edu!bloom-beacon.mit.edu!nycmny1-snh1.gtei.net!washdc3-snh1.gtei.net!news.gtei.net!chcgil2-snh1.gtei.net!news.bbnplanet.com!wn12feed!worldnet.att.net!204.127.198.203!attbi_feed3!attbi.com!rwcrnsc54.POSTED!not-for-mail Message-ID: <3F1B207B.6090308@attbi.com> From: "Robert I. Eachus" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.0; en-US; rv:1.0.2) Gecko/20021120 Netscape/7.01 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Subject: Re: Crosspost: Help wanted from comp.compilers References: <3F158832.1040206@attbi.com> <1058378673.35463@master.nyc.kbcfp.com> <1058390613.119827@master.nyc.kbcfp.com> <2OERa.4718$0F4.3216@nwrdny02.gnilink.net> <1058539398.178565@master.nyc.kbcfp.com> <3F18D647.9020505@attbi.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit NNTP-Posting-Host: 66.31.71.243 X-Complaints-To: abuse@comcast.net X-Trace: rwcrnsc54 1058742412 66.31.71.243 (Sun, 20 Jul 2003 23:06:52 GMT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 20 Jul 2003 23:06:52 GMT Organization: Comcast Online Date: Sun, 20 Jul 2003 23:06:52 GMT Xref: archiver1.google.com comp.lang.ada:40531 Date: 2003-07-20T23:06:52+00:00 List-Id: Hyman Rosen wrote: > No. First of all, "exist in the environment" is not a defined concept, > and doesn't even have to mean object files. See 10.1.4(3). Of course it doesn't mean--or have anything to do with--object files. > Second, nothing in what you stated implies that recompiling a > module forces it to be inconsistent with other already compiled modules > which depend on it. Some systems do this, but that is an implementation > shortcut they have taken, not a requirement from the language. See, this is why you are a troll. RM 10.1.4(5) is completely clear on this issue. > I'm not sure why you consider this to be a troll. Let's see. You pretend to be an expert on Ada. And every time you open your mouth in this newsgroup you reveal the depths of your ignorance. > If nothing else, the > fact the recompilation issues were part of the design requirements of > Ada 95 should demonstrate that Ada had significant problems in this area, > even without pessimizing compilation systems. If you had been paying attention, you would have noticed that they were considered for inclusion. I was one of the people who commented on that and convinced everyone that the current model did not need fixing. There are different implementations of that model, and I certainly agree that the work that Robert Dewar and Richard Stallman (rms) plus others put into developing the GNAT implementation of that model were also played a big part. I know the history. I have been involved in the development and standardization of Ada since 1981. I am not perfect and I don't claim to be. But you may have noticed that if I make a mistake in a posting here I acknowledge it gracefully. You need to learn how to do that. I apologize to every other comp.lang.ada reader for once again being tempted into responding to this troll. -- Robert I. Eachus �In an ally, considerations of house, clan, planet, race are insignificant beside two prime questions, which are: 1. Can he shoot? 2. Will he aim at your enemy?� -- from the Laiden novels by Sharon Lee and Steve Miller.