From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 103376,38fc011071df5a27 X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public X-Google-ArrivalTime: 2003-05-30 10:40:41 PST Path: archiver1.google.com!news1.google.com!newsfeed.stanford.edu!headwall.stanford.edu!newshub.sdsu.edu!newsfeed2.earthlink.net!newsfeed.earthlink.net!wn14feed!worldnet.att.net!207.35.177.252!nf3.bellglobal.com!nf1.bellglobal.com!nf2.bellglobal.com!news20.bellglobal.com.POSTED!not-for-mail Message-ID: <3ED7940D.8020807@cogeco.ca> From: "Warren W. Gay VE3WWG" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.0; en-US; rv:1.0.2) Gecko/20030208 Netscape/7.02 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Subject: Re: Ideas for Ada 200X (Ada.Sockets) References: <6a90b886.0305262344.1d558079@posting.google.com> <3ED4A94C.2020501@noplace.com> <3ed4c9a2@news.wineasy.se> <3ED4EB4E.6050108@cogeco.ca> <3ED52455.8020307@cogeco.ca> <3ED63872.9050209@cogeco.ca> <3ed72af2$1@news.wineasy.se> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Fri, 30 May 2003 13:25:33 -0400 NNTP-Posting-Host: 198.96.223.163 X-Complaints-To: abuse@sympatico.ca X-Trace: news20.bellglobal.com 1054315532 198.96.223.163 (Fri, 30 May 2003 13:25:32 EDT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 30 May 2003 13:25:32 EDT Organization: Bell Sympatico Xref: archiver1.google.com comp.lang.ada:38129 Date: 2003-05-30T13:25:33-04:00 List-Id: Tarjei T. Jensen wrote: > "Warren W. Gay wrote: >>Looking backwards to '95, I think it can be fairly stated that things >>were a bit different than today. For one, Linux was in its infancy, >>and Windoze was still discovering the inet. GNAT was still in its >>infancy. I believe has done a much to promote the "general purpose" >>usefulness of Ada. This is certainly true at least of the open sourced >>community (which may be a small subset of Ada users worldwide). > > Windows discovered the internet before '95. And Linux was even then very > much network focused at the time. I'll disagree with you on this, at least in terms of the semantics of what "discovered" means. In fact, Microsoft is _still_ learning that security must come before features. They are still stuck in the model that existed before they met the inet where they could ignore the threat of hacks because PCs were standalone, or were local area nets at best. Recall that for the longest time, WinSock was their "add on" to address TCP/IP. It wasn't even part of the O/S for a long time. Linux had it _almost_ from the start. -- Warren W. Gay VE3WWG http://home.cogeco.ca/~ve3wwg