From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 103376,38fc011071df5a27 X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public X-Google-ArrivalTime: 2003-05-30 05:18:16 PST Path: archiver1.google.com!news1.google.com!sn-xit-03!sn-xit-01!sn-xit-09!supernews.com!newsfeed.news2me.com!newsfeed2.earthlink.net!newsfeed.earthlink.net!stamper.news.pas.earthlink.net!stamper.news.atl.earthlink.net!harp.news.atl.earthlink.net!not-for-mail From: Marin David Condic Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Subject: Re: Ideas for Ada 200X Date: Fri, 30 May 2003 08:17:11 -0400 Organization: MindSpring Enterprises Message-ID: <3ED74BC7.3080100@noplace.com> References: <6a90b886.0305262344.1d558079@posting.google.com> <3ED4A94C.2020501@noplace.com> <3ed4c9a2@news.wineasy.se> <3ED4F77F.5060809@noplace.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: d1.56.b0.26 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Server-Date: 30 May 2003 12:17:14 GMT User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.0.1) Gecko/20020823 Netscape/7.0 (OEM-HPQ-PRS1C03) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en Xref: archiver1.google.com comp.lang.ada:38083 Date: 2003-05-30T12:17:14+00:00 List-Id: Well, realistically at this point Ada doesn't have much to lose by being bold and striving for something new and refreshing. On one level, it simply needs to "catch up" to other languages by providing some kind of libraries similar to what you can get elsewhere. On another level, it needs to *exceed* what other languages are doing if it hopes to capture market share away from them. So if Ada doesn't aim high, it is just going to remain off in its own little nich and slowly strangle. Trying to incorporate every possible good idea into the language standard is just not going to work. Providing some kind of forum whereby the vendors and other vested interests can come up with extensions to the language's capabilities that are not part of the formal standard would be a good route to go because it would allow for rapid reaction to changing circumstances. We just don't seem to see much interest in doing something like that coming from the vendors. Without them, it fails. MDC Tarjei T. Jensen wrote: > > > That is what landed Ada95 in trouble as far as popularity is concerned last > time. > -- ====================================================================== Marin David Condic I work for: http://www.belcan.com/ My project is: http://www.jast.mil/ Send Replies To: m c o n d i c @ a c m . o r g "In general the art of government consists in taking as much money as possible from one class of citizens to give to the other." -- Voltaire ======================================================================