From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 103376,583275b6950bf4e6 X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public X-Google-ArrivalTime: 2003-05-16 06:36:20 PST Path: archiver1.google.com!news1.google.com!newsfeed.stanford.edu!bloom-beacon.mit.edu!cambridge1-snf1.gtei.net!news.gtei.net!bos-service1.ext.raytheon.com!bos-service2.ext.raytheon.com.POSTED!not-for-mail Message-ID: <3EC4E953.E920BD6A@gbr.msd.ray.com> From: Steve O'Neill X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.78 [en] (X11; U; HP-UX B.11.11 9000/785) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Subject: Re: Quality systems (Was: Using Ada for device drivers? (Was: the Ada mandate, and why it collapsed and died)) References: <9fa75d42.0304230424.10612b1a@posting.google.com> <9fa75d42.0305091549.48b9c5d9@posting.google.com> <7507f79d.0305121629.5b8b7369@posting.google.com> <9fa75d42.0305130543.60381450@posting.google.com> <9fa75d42.0305160453.29c0c4af@posting.google.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Fri, 16 May 2003 09:36:19 -0400 NNTP-Posting-Host: 192.199.125.101 X-Complaints-To: news@ext.ray.com X-Trace: bos-service2.ext.raytheon.com 1053092179 192.199.125.101 (Fri, 16 May 2003 09:36:19 EDT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 16 May 2003 09:36:19 EDT Organization: Raytheon Company Xref: archiver1.google.com comp.lang.ada:37385 Date: 2003-05-16T09:36:19-04:00 List-Id: soft-eng wrote: > So the tradeoff is, possibly a bug or two caught > at compile time rather than during testing, But one should remember that the farther down the process that those errors are caught the amount of time and effort (read $$$) required to diagnose and correct them. Not to mention the ramifications if, God forbid, the error is found through someone's injury or death. > versus using a very large language And C++ is small?? Also, you don't need to use it all - just the parts that you need. > that was created by fiat. First, I take exception to your characterization of how Ada came to be but even if I accepted it how a tool came into being should not be a factor in whether you use it or not. Unless, of course, the tool was developed ins a sweat shop somewhere.