From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 103376,583275b6950bf4e6 X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public X-Google-Thread: 1108a1,59ec73856b699922 X-Google-Attributes: gid1108a1,public X-Google-Thread: fdb77,5f529c91be2ac930 X-Google-Attributes: gidfdb77,public X-Google-ArrivalTime: 2003-05-09 21:49:13 PST Path: archiver1.google.com!news1.google.com!newsfeed.stanford.edu!news-spur1.maxwell.syr.edu!news.maxwell.syr.edu!newsfeed-east.nntpserver.com!nntpserver.com!news-west.rr.com!cyclone.kc.rr.com!cyclone2.kc.rr.com!news2.kc.rr.com!twister.neo.rr.com.POSTED!not-for-mail Message-ID: <3EBC86C8.9010802@indy.rr.com> From: Tim Ottinger User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i586; en-US; rv:1.0.0) Gecko/20020623 Debian/1.0.0-0.woody.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: comp.lang.java.advocacy,comp.object,comp.lang.ada Subject: Re: Using Ada for device drivers? (Was: the Ada mandate, and why it collapsed and died) References: <9fa75d42.0304230424.10612b1a@posting.google.com> <9fa75d42.0305060521.400f1d80@posting.google.com> <82347202.0305061103.2ddd98e4@posting.google.com> <9fa75d42.0305070504.6866e7a3@posting.google.com> <9fa75d42.0305070929.2d7a0d4c@posting.google.com> <9fa75d42.0305080548.1afde9b7@posting.google.com> <9fa75d42.0305090431.30a27330@posting.google.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Sat, 10 May 2003 04:57:04 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 65.26.177.21 X-Complaints-To: abuse@rr.com X-Trace: twister.neo.rr.com 1052542624 65.26.177.21 (Sat, 10 May 2003 00:57:04 EDT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 10 May 2003 00:57:04 EDT Organization: Road Runner High Speed Online -- Northeast Ohio Xref: archiver1.google.com comp.lang.java.advocacy:63449 comp.object:63142 comp.lang.ada:37134 Date: 2003-05-10T04:57:04+00:00 List-Id: soft-eng wrote: > > But to intimidate Ada advocates you only > need to mention the word "pointers" :-) I never try to intimidate Ada programmers. Some wonderful programmers have been Ada guys. I once saw a project for the army written in Ada (of course) with no comments at all. And it didn't need them. If you could read Ada, you could tell what it was doing. But if you try to intimidate Ada guys, they'll let you know that their data types and generics can beat up your data types and templates. Any day. I don't remember much about my Ada training. That's sad. I wish I did. Of course, now I'm migrating toward more Python and Perl than even C++, and PHP on the side for fun. I can't be a language bigot, because I use more than one. When I only knew C and BASIC, it was easy to be biased toward C. But you live and you learn. Oh, the only SERIOUSLY multi-lingual (software-wise) people I know who are seriously bigoted are bigoted towards Mod3 or Smalltalk. And I suspect that they're right. Tim