From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 103376,e5c972d04da95d51 X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public X-Google-ArrivalTime: 2003-04-16 09:12:50 PST Path: archiver1.google.com!news1.google.com!newsfeed.stanford.edu!news-spur1.maxwell.syr.edu!news.maxwell.syr.edu!peernews-us.colt.net!newsfeed.news2me.com!newsfeed2.earthlink.net!newsfeed.earthlink.net!stamper.news.pas.earthlink.net!stamper.news.atl.earthlink.net!harp.news.atl.earthlink.net!not-for-mail From: rd Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Subject: Re: If anybody wants to make something in Ada but do not know what Date: Wed, 16 Apr 2003 11:10:56 -0500 Organization: MindSpring Enterprises Message-ID: <3E9D8090.F86AF4EC@spam.no> References: <3E9D61C0.5070103@cogeco.ca> NNTP-Posting-Host: a5.79.eb.31 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Server-Date: 16 Apr 2003 16:12:50 GMT X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.74 [en] (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en,ja,zh-CN,zh,zh-TW Xref: archiver1.google.com comp.lang.ada:36190 Date: 2003-04-16T16:12:50+00:00 List-Id: "Warren W. Gay VE3WWG" wrote: > > Preben Randhol wrote: [clip] > > Besides spam filters is something > > people need so it could promote Ada95. > > > > Wish I could make it myself, but I simply don't have the time at the > > moment. > ... > > Preben > > I personally believe that as long as email is free (and we like it > that way), SPAM will continue to be a big problem. To keep email > free, I think that the only way this will work is we'll end up > using two forms of email on the Internet: > > 1) Traditional email, which permits unsolicited mail (port 25); > which will continually battle with spam filters and such. > 2) A newer "solicited only" email system (port 26?) > > Perhaps the 2nd kind, can piggy back off of the first, by either > using a similar but extended protocol, and probably > using a new TCP/IP port # to avoid the log jam that occurs > on port 25 as spammers spam away. > > The new email protocol would make use of PKI exchanges (PGP?), > so that only those people that you have shared certificates > with, can successfully deposit email in your mailbox (this > would be great for kids, so that only their friends can > send them mail etc.). If someone gives away the cert (if the > protocol allows it), then you revoke it, and issue a new one > if necessary. > > Where the protocol research comes in (I think), is the method of > sharing and administering certs in a way that is easy for > grandmothers to work with. > For the second protocol, Jabber might be just the thing. The best part about Jabber is the real time messaging capability, and if I was designing the second protocol, I would include this functionality. I don't believe there are any Jabber clients/servers written in Ada, and I'm not sure how well Jabber uses crypto, but I do know that I still miss a useful ICQ, and AIM doesn't fill the void (can't do computer to computer messages in AIM. They must go through the central server).