From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.3 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,LOTS_OF_MONEY, REPLYTO_WITHOUT_TO_CC autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 103376,e6a2e4a4c0d7d8a6 X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public X-Google-Thread: 101deb,3488d9e5d292649f X-Google-Attributes: gid101deb,public X-Google-ArrivalTime: 2003-02-21 12:39:18 PST Path: archiver1.google.com!news1.google.com!newsfeed.stanford.edu!news-spur1.maxwell.syr.edu!news.maxwell.syr.edu!beamish.news.atl.earthlink.net!guinness.news.atl.earthlink.net!news.atl.earthlink.net!stamper.news.atl.earthlink.net!harp.news.atl.earthlink.net!not-for-mail From: Richard Riehle Newsgroups: comp.lang.pl1,comp.lang.ada Subject: Re: Donald's F-22 Question Date: Fri, 21 Feb 2003 12:49:34 -0800 Organization: AdaWorks Software Engineering Message-ID: <3E5690DE.D0B10D53@adaworks.com> References: <3E51908E.9CCA3412@adaworks.com> <8Gh4a.7455$_c6.743959@newsread2.prod.itd.earthlink.net> <3E51ABCE.5491B9A2@adaworks.com> <3E5273DE.2050206@cox.net> <3E531E6F.BDFB2599@adaworks.com> <3E546C45.4010406@cox.net> <3E54F926.441D5BB5@adaworks.com> Reply-To: richard@adaworks.com NNTP-Posting-Host: 3f.bb.a9.b3 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Server-Date: 21 Feb 2003 20:39:18 GMT X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en Xref: archiver1.google.com comp.lang.pl1:4403 comp.lang.ada:34383 Date: 2003-02-21T20:39:18+00:00 List-Id: Returning to Donald's original question, repeated at the end of this message. I have been interested in the thread that started this. Lots of good comments have been posted. No one has directly address Donald's question vis a vis the F-22. The F-22 software is clearly a problem. There are probably programmers out there who read these forums and have direct involvment with this project. It would be interesting to hear from one or more of them. Richard Riehle ====================================================== > "Donald L. Dobbs" wrote: > > > Not to belabor a point, but one of the lead stories today on the > > Aviation Week web site www.aviationnow.com describes how the F-22 > > program is now some $800 million overrun because of delays caused by > > unreliable software. They can get it to run for about 8 hrs in the lab > > before it crashes, but in the actual test flights it fails within 3.5 > > hours forcing the pilot to reboot the system while in mid-flight. If > > they are using Ada as you contend, then this is a terrible indictment > > and confirms what I had heard earlier about the language's shortcomings.