From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 103376,103b407e8b68350b X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public X-Google-ArrivalTime: 2003-01-02 10:09:43 PST Message-ID: <3E148004.5000408@cogeco.ca> From: "Warren W. Gay VE3WWG" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.0; en-US; rv:1.0.1) Gecko/20020823 Netscape/7.0 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Subject: Re: Anybody in US using ADA ? New language competition? References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Thu, 02 Jan 2003 13:08:04 -0500 NNTP-Posting-Host: 198.96.47.195 X-Complaints-To: abuse@sympatico.ca X-Trace: news20.bellglobal.com 1041530884 198.96.47.195 (Thu, 02 Jan 2003 13:08:04 EST) NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 02 Jan 2003 13:08:04 EST Organization: Bell Sympatico Path: archiver1.google.com!news1.google.com!newsfeed.stanford.edu!cyclone.bc.net!torn!webster!nf1.bellglobal.com!nf2.bellglobal.com!news20.bellglobal.com.POSTED!not-for-mail Xref: archiver1.google.com comp.lang.ada:32453 Date: 2003-01-02T13:08:04-05:00 List-Id: Marin David Condic wrote: ... > Maybe that's part of why there was/is a lot of resentment toward Ada. It > walked in the door with a mandate and everyone had big investments in other > things and the feeling was "This is going to cost me truckloads in > discarding my existing investment and for what? An uncertain 'technical > advantage'? Why are they trying to make my life harder?" It would be interesting reading to review the "competition to the Green language" at this point in time, to see how the other entries stack up with what we know and accept today in compiler languages and technologies. Are there online documents that describe the other entries? The Internet today would make it very easy for us to form our own committee of "language experts" to start a language design competition and review. Once the winner is announced, there must be enough open sourced people spoiling for a chance to work on a new language/compiler. Getting it accepted by industry would be a different matter, but hey -- Linux is gaining acceptance. Stranger things have happened. However, when I think about it myself, I just feel that Ada95 (and pending 200y) has gained so much useful experience, that it seems a shame to start over (and add to the competition with Ada). I'd rather see Ada succeed than start from near scratch again. But hey- maybe there is a better design waiting to be sprung on the world. -- Warren W. Gay VE3WWG http://home.cogeco.ca/~ve3wwg