From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.3 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00, REPLYTO_WITHOUT_TO_CC autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 103376,9b30240b5a381bbf X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public X-Google-ArrivalTime: 2002-08-20 08:40:13 PST Path: archiver1.google.com!news2.google.com!news1.google.com!newsfeed.stanford.edu!logbridge.uoregon.edu!newspeer1.nac.net!news.stealth.net!news.stealth.net!central.cox.net!cox.net!newsfeed1.earthlink.net!newsfeed.earthlink.net!stamper.news.pas.earthlink.net!stamper.news.atl.earthlink.net!harp.news.atl.earthlink.net!not-for-mail From: Richard Riehle Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Subject: Re: Ada 95 for an ARM-based bare board? Date: Tue, 20 Aug 2002 08:45:06 -0700 Organization: AdaWorks Software Engineering Message-ID: <3D626402.9EDF7CC0@adaworks.com> References: <3D6127E4.86919578@adaworks.com> Reply-To: richard@adaworks.com NNTP-Posting-Host: 3f.bb.a1.8e Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Server-Date: 20 Aug 2002 15:40:09 GMT X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en Xref: archiver1.google.com comp.lang.ada:28253 Date: 2002-08-20T15:40:09+00:00 List-Id: "Dmitry A.Kazakov" wrote: > Richard Riehle wrote: > > > "Dmitry A.Kazakov" wrote: > > > >> Is there any vendor? > > > > I would suggest taking a look a the option of > > a C-Path Ada compiler such as that provided by > > Irvine Compiler Corporation (ICC). ICC is > > experienced in building bare-board compilers > > and might be able to respond to this kind of > > requirement with modifications to existing technology. > > I sent them a request. So far I have got only a response from their E-mail > robot that the request is in processing. It looks like a collective > vacation. (:-)) I just received an email from Dan Eilers at ICC. I think you may be hearing from him in the near future. It is my understanding that ICC is a small compiler company with a highly focused market. As with most small companies, they must choose their opportunities carefully. Resources are scarce and it does no one any good to chase wishful thinking. If they determine that there really is a market for this kind of product, I suspect they will be happy to make money from it. It is always a chicken and egg problem, I suppose. If the Ada mandate were still in effect, there might be more incentive to build compilers for potential customers. Now that Ada is dependent on a commercial model, the market will dictate what is available. The ARM marketplace does not seem to be clamoring for an Ada compiler. What is the potential return on investment for the development of such a compiler? One advantage we have is that there are avenues for migration of Ada to new platforms. GNAT, with its open source, is one avenue. The C-Path compilers from ICC and others is another. When Ada is rediscovered, there will be an urgency to find compilers for some of the platforms not currently targeted. "Ah yes, there'll be a brighter day tomorrow." :-) Richard Riehle