From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 103376,f51e93dacd9c7fca X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public X-Google-ArrivalTime: 2002-06-18 15:59:09 PST Path: archiver1.google.com!news1.google.com!newsfeed.stanford.edu!logbridge.uoregon.edu!news.net.uni-c.dk!not-for-mail From: Jacob Sparre Andersen Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Subject: Re: status of Ada STL? Date: Wed, 19 Jun 2002 00:58:47 +0200 Organization: Centre for Chaos and Turbulence Studies, Niels Bohr Institute Message-ID: <3D0FBB27.9DFD64D6@nbi.dk> References: <3d0ce154_5@news.bluewin.ch> <3D0F65A8.3020608@mail.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: alf.nbi.dk Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: news.net.uni-c.dk 1024441128 10130 130.225.212.55 (18 Jun 2002 22:58:48 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@news.net.uni-c.dk NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 18 Jun 2002 22:58:48 +0000 (UTC) X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.78 [en] (X11; U; OSF1 V4.0 alpha) X-Accept-Language: fo,da,no,sv,is,de,fr,en Xref: archiver1.google.com comp.lang.ada:26319 Date: 2002-06-19T00:58:47+02:00 List-Id: Hyman Rosen wrote: > Pascal Obry wrote: > > Ok, but that is a compiler issue, I don't see why it > > should not be possible and it is not a language issue. It is certainly possible. IIRC I wrote a description of how it can be done last time the discussion came up. > Of course it's a language issue. B*******. > Programming languages, > especially "3rd generation" ones like Ada, C, or C++, > are means of instructing a computer what to do, in > low-level and precise detail. Exactly. _What_ to do, more than _how_ to do it (as opposed to machine/assembler code). > When a language does not > allow you to explicitly describe a certain behavior, > but instead you must hope that the implementation can > reason out what you actually wanted, that is a deficiency > in the language. Nothing prevents you from explicitly telling the compiler to do an in-place operation, if you feel that that is important for you. You can also write in-line assembler code in you Ada programs, but it is in my experience not all that common that you need it. Jacob -- "Those who profess to favor freedom and yet depreciate agitation, are people who want crops without ploughing the ground; they want rain without thunder and lightning; they want the ocean without the roar of its waters." -- Frederick Douglas