From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 103376,f51e93dacd9c7fca X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public X-Google-ArrivalTime: 2002-06-16 16:02:40 PST Path: archiver1.google.com!news1.google.com!newsfeed.stanford.edu!canoe.uoregon.edu!logbridge.uoregon.edu!nntp-relay.ihug.net!ihug.co.nz!cox.net!p02!news2.east.cox.net.POSTED!53ab2750!not-for-mail Message-ID: <3D0D18D5.2020601@telepath.com> From: Ted Dennison User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.0; en-US; rv:1.0.0) Gecko/20020530 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Subject: Re: status of Ada STL? References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Sun, 16 Jun 2002 23:02:39 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 68.12.51.201 X-Complaints-To: abuse@cox.net X-Trace: news2.east.cox.net 1024268559 68.12.51.201 (Sun, 16 Jun 2002 19:02:39 EDT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 16 Jun 2002 19:02:39 EDT Organization: Cox Communications Xref: archiver1.google.com comp.lang.ada:26101 Date: 2002-06-16T23:02:39+00:00 List-Id: Russ wrote: > Pascal Obry wrote in message news:... > >>Of course this is not Ada anymore... Do you think it is a good idea to >>push a new language to have Ada more widely used ? > Yes, it IS still essentially Ada, because you can still use standard > Ada compilers. A simple pre-processor could convert the cleaner > dialect to standard Ada 95, and ANYONE WHO WANTS TO CONTINUE TO USE > STANDARD ADA 95 COULD CONTINUE TO DO SO. Then write the preprocessor and use it. If its so much better, other people will too. I don't think I'd ever use it though. First off, I think it would make my sources much uglier. Secondly, it throws away some purposeful design decisions (eg: not using similar looking operators like "==" and "=") for the apparent purpose of making the language look more like C. That's a stupid purpose in my book. Complaining that Ada doesn't look like C is the last gasp excuse of folks who just don't like Ada because it *isn't* C. There's nothing you can do to reach out to those folks. Just let them use C and be happy.