From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 103376,52fd60a337c05842 X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public X-Google-ArrivalTime: 2002-06-15 06:55:10 PST Path: archiver1.google.com!news1.google.com!newsfeed.stanford.edu!news.uchicago.edu!vixen.cso.uiuc.edu!uwm.edu!arclight.uoregon.edu!wn4feed!wn3feed!worldnet.att.net!204.127.198.203!attbi_feed3!attbi_feed4!attbi.com!sccrnsc03.POSTED!not-for-mail Message-ID: <3D0B4750.90509@attbi.com> From: Ed Falis User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.0.0) Gecko/20020610 Debian/1.0.0-1 X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Subject: Re: The 1980 ACM Turing Award Lecture The Emperor's Old Clothes References: <3D0B44B0.6000805@telepath.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit NNTP-Posting-Host: 24.60.128.22 X-Complaints-To: abuse@attbi.com X-Trace: sccrnsc03 1024149309 24.60.128.22 (Sat, 15 Jun 2002 13:55:09 GMT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 15 Jun 2002 13:55:09 GMT Organization: AT&T Broadband Date: Sat, 15 Jun 2002 13:55:09 GMT Xref: archiver1.google.com comp.lang.ada:26021 Date: 2002-06-15T13:55:09+00:00 List-Id: Ted Dennison wrote: > Lyle McKennot wrote: >> How about the 1980 ACM Turing Award lecture "The Emperor's Old >> Clothes" ? > > > The main problem with that is that Ada was not finalized until 1985. > Hoare's comments were made about a very preliminary version of the > language. Not only did Ada get 5 more years of development after that, > but it then got a major revision in 1995. So that lecture isn't at all > about the language we today know as Ada. > Further, Hoare praised Ada a few years later in the Foreword he wrote to an Ada textbook - anyone remember the specific book (Wegner)? - Ed