From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 103376,52fd60a337c05842 X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public X-Google-ArrivalTime: 2002-06-15 06:45:11 PST Path: archiver1.google.com!news1.google.com!newsfeed.stanford.edu!newsfeed.berkeley.edu!news-hog.berkeley.edu!ucberkeley!newshub.sdsu.edu!west.cox.net!cox.net!p02!news2.east.cox.net.POSTED!53ab2750!not-for-mail Message-ID: <3D0B44B0.6000805@telepath.com> From: Ted Dennison User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.0; en-US; rv:1.0.0) Gecko/20020530 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Subject: Re: The 1980 ACM Turing Award Lecture The Emperor's Old Clothes References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Sat, 15 Jun 2002 13:45:12 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 68.12.51.201 X-Complaints-To: abuse@cox.net X-Trace: news2.east.cox.net 1024148712 68.12.51.201 (Sat, 15 Jun 2002 09:45:12 EDT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 15 Jun 2002 09:45:12 EDT Organization: Cox Communications Xref: archiver1.google.com comp.lang.ada:26020 Date: 2002-06-15T13:45:12+00:00 List-Id: Lyle McKennot wrote: > "John R. Strohm" wrote: > > >>You are doomed to disappointment. > > > How about the 1980 ACM Turing Award lecture "The Emperor's Old > Clothes" ? The main problem with that is that Ada was not finalized until 1985. Hoare's comments were made about a very preliminary version of the language. Not only did Ada get 5 more years of development after that, but it then got a major revision in 1995. So that lecture isn't at all about the language we today know as Ada.