From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 103376,a073fa836a03b290 X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public X-Google-ArrivalTime: 2002-05-14 20:32:06 PST Path: archiver1.google.com!news2.google.com!news1.google.com!newsfeed.stanford.edu!news-spur1.maxwell.syr.edu!news.maxwell.syr.edu!feed.news.qwest.net!news.uswest.net.POSTED!not-for-mail Message-ID: <3CE1D840.9060502@qwest.net> From: "Robert R. Beaver" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:0.9.3) Gecko/20010914 X-Accept-Language: en-us MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Subject: Re: [OT] Gnat cross compiling FreeBSD to Win32 ? References: <3CD1FFC5.4050607@qwest.net> <5ee5b646.0205030057.7cb47a2d@posting.google.com> <3CDD3699.2090809@qwest.net> <4519e058.0205130633.478cc872@posting.google.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Tue, 14 May 2002 20:38:40 -0700 NNTP-Posting-Host: 209.180.177.104 X-Trace: news.uswest.net 1021433241 209.180.177.104 (Tue, 14 May 2002 22:27:21 CDT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 14 May 2002 22:27:21 CDT Xref: archiver1.google.com comp.lang.ada:24066 Date: 2002-05-14T20:38:40-07:00 List-Id: Stephen Leake wrote: > Preben Randhol writes: > > >>On 14 May 2002 12:55:09 -0400, Stephen Leake wrote: >> >>>Well, I want a _stable_ system, not a _testing_ system. Windows NT is >>>a _stable_ system. >>> >>Debian testing is _stable_ now. I've been using it for 1 year. >> > > Well, apparently "the Debian committee", whoever that is, disagrees > with you; the name is still "testing"! > > >>>for my taste. The binary install from ACT was much simpler, just >>>not quite as simple as the Windows version. >>> >>Though it may be simple, you must still recompile all your libraries >>like libgtkada asis etc... >> > > True, but irrelevant. Are you implying that 'apt-get install gnat' > will also update gtkada? I hope not! > > >>>Neither apt-get nor dselect is as 'user-friendly' as Install >>>Shield when it comes to customizing an installation. >>> >>Please explain. >> > > Well, when was the last time you used Install Shield? On a good > package, it gives you choices about where to install it, which > optional sub-packages to install, which language to use, which help > file formats to install, etc. > > Debian apt-get gives no choice for any of these. > > >>>I'll stick to Debian stable, thank you! >>> >>Well Testing will catch up with you in short time. Actually it was >>sceduled for release 1 May, but was delayed. >> > > Ok, I'll get it when it comes out. > > >>>Ok. So I have to remember "apt-get" instead of "dselect". And I'm >>> >>If you have such a bad memory I'm surprised you manage to code in the >>first place. ;-) I don't buy it. But then use gnome-apt or some other >>graphical frontend. >> > > Ok. That was my point; in Windows, you have a standard graphical front > end that makes it fairly easy to find things that you want to install; > just look in your "downloads" directory, and select the file you want. > If I use command-line 'apt-get', there is no such list. If you had > started this by saying "use gnome-apt", rather than by saying "use > apt-get", I'd be more sympathetic. > > >>Sorry but I have dealt with Debian and windows for years now and >>Debian proves time and time again to be much more easy. >> > > I agree; for the work I really want to do, Debian is better. For > installing packages like Myst and Quicken, Windows (more precisely > Install Shield) is better (and not just because they don't exist for > Linux!). > > >>When I got my new laptop at work I had a Debian system up and >>running with *all* packages I had on my desktop system in 55 min and >>*one* reboot. Installing Windows took 3 hours (mainly due to network >>driver problems) and then I had to start installing the software >>which took about 5 hours and I guess about 15-20 reboots. >> > > Did you end up with the _same_ set of application software on each > system? I suspect not! > > You also got lucky with Debian; there are far more network driver > cards supported by Windows than by Debian. > > I Didn't mean to turn this news group int in to a OS flame war. I would like to see ithis thread get back on track of the problem of cross compiling. If we can resolve that, then it would benefit UNIX and Windows alike. I will Try to keep my OS BIOS out of the picture.