From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 103376,d89b08801f2aacae X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public X-Google-ArrivalTime: 2002-05-03 17:23:09 PST Path: archiver1.google.com!news1.google.com!newsfeed.stanford.edu!news-spur1.maxwell.syr.edu!news.maxwell.syr.edu!newsfeed1.cidera.com!Cidera!cyclone.socal.rr.com!cyclone3.kc.rr.com!news3.kc.rr.com!twister.socal.rr.com.POSTED!not-for-mail Message-ID: <3CD329FE.C067B6CE@san.rr.com> From: Darren New X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.77 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Subject: Re: Is strong typing worth the cost? References: <4519e058.0204290722.2189008@posting.google.com> <3CCE8523.6F2E721C@earthlink.net> <3CCEB246.9090009@worldnet.att.net> <3CCFD76A.A60BB9A8@flash.net> <3CD0A3B8.7B7C8622@san.rr.com> <3CD15FAE.6DEE0AD@despammed.com> <3CD16B60.93078396@san.rr.com> <3CD1B496.DBE8ADC4@san.rr.com> <3CD1DE85.C00AD2A9@san.rr.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Sat, 04 May 2002 00:23:07 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 66.75.151.160 X-Complaints-To: abuse@rr.com X-Trace: twister.socal.rr.com 1020471787 66.75.151.160 (Fri, 03 May 2002 17:23:07 PDT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 03 May 2002 17:23:07 PDT Organization: RoadRunner - West Xref: archiver1.google.com comp.lang.ada:23524 Date: 2002-05-04T00:23:07+00:00 List-Id: Marin David Condic wrote: > Part of the problem here is that it is not at all clear or obvious that XP > is any good for anything at all. Well, you can ignore all the information provided by the people actually doing XP, but I don't imagine doing so would be any more productive than ignoring the information that evidences that strong typing reduces bugcount when you're not doing XP. > From what I've read of XP it seems to be kind of a "religion" that might be > really appealing to the "Hacker Mentality" since it deliberately avoids lots > of formal stuff that seems to chafe at the free spirits out there. Um, I think you've not read enough. Or you've read it thru preconception-filters that keep you from seeing what's going on there. Not saying that it's good or bad, but it's certainly nothing that a cowboy coder could ever manage. The process is quite formal. It's just not "waterfall". -- Darren New San Diego, CA, USA (PST). Cryptokeys on demand. The 90/10 rule of toothpaste: the last 10% of the tube lasts as long as the first 90%.