From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 103376,ac39a12d5faf5b14 X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public X-Google-ArrivalTime: 2002-04-18 13:11:54 PST Path: archiver1.google.com!news1.google.com!newsfeed.stanford.edu!news-spur1.maxwell.syr.edu!news.maxwell.syr.edu!newsfeed00.sul.t-online.de!newsfeed01.sul.t-online.de!t-online.de!unlisys!news.snafu.de!boavista!nobody From: Michael Erdmann Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Subject: Re: Rant! (was) Development process in the Ada community Date: Thu, 18 Apr 2002 22:12:14 +0200 Organization: [Posted via] Inter.net Germany GmbH Message-ID: <3CBF289E.8000201@snafu.de> References: <3CB46975.90408@snafu.de> <3CB77A6B.5090504@snafu.de> <184076622a7c648f157c56e417bd86d4.48257@mygate.mailgate.org> <3CB9375F.8040904@snafu.de> <3CBC56F0.9050300@snafu.de> <3CBEDCE7.2FC3AB04@flash.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: tc01-n71-241.de.inter.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:0.9.8) Gecko/20020204 X-Accept-Language: en-us Xref: archiver1.google.com comp.lang.ada:22749 Date: 2002-04-18T22:12:14+02:00 List-Id: Gary Scott wrote: > Bill Tate wrote: > >>Michael Erdmann wrote in message >> >>>>If we had some community concensus that one or more libraries was what we >>>> >>[snip] >> >>>>wanted for doing job X, all you'd have to do is persuade the vendors to >>>>distribute it with their compilers and it instantly becomes part of Ada even >>>>if it isn't part of the "standard". >>>> >>>I dont think that we need the vendors this mutch, most of the popular >>>open source software is distributed without them (thanks to sites >>>as sourceforge etc..), >>> >>>In my mind the idea of a public ada process is showing up: >>> >>>- There is a job to be done and i have some solution for it. Propose >>> the solution to the community (who is this, i gues comp.lang.ada?) >>> >>>- If sufficient interest has been raised, form a working group >>> for this topic and provide an implemenation for public use. >>> >>>- Proceed until wide acceptance >>> >>>- Propose to ISO >>> >>> >>Michael, >>I would like to echo some of your points from an outsider's >>perspective. As someone who spends most of his time on >>comp.lang.python, Python suffers from some of the same "kinds" of >>perceptions (erroneous or otherwise) as Ada does, e.g., degree of >>acceptance, availability of developers, etc. >> > > At least python has gobs (a technical term) of books available in the > local book store and seems to be getting plenty of attention from the > media and academia. Then consider Fortran 95. Just write an Article how wunderfull Ada is, how easy to use etc... I know it is difficult to publish this but without try no failure!