From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.3 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00, REPLYTO_WITHOUT_TO_CC autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 103376,ac39a12d5faf5b14 X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public X-Google-ArrivalTime: 2002-04-18 07:35:03 PST Path: archiver1.google.com!news1.google.com!newsfeed.stanford.edu!news-spur1.maxwell.syr.edu!news.maxwell.syr.edu!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.gtei.net!newscon02.news.prodigy.com!newsmst01.news.prodigy.com!prodigy.com!postmaster.news.prodigy.com!newssvr16.news.prodigy.com.POSTED!53ab2750!not-for-mail Message-ID: <3CBEDA7A.DF3B781E@flash.net> From: Gary Scott Reply-To: scottg@flash.net Organization: Home X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en]C-DIAL (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Subject: Re: Outside view (still): Development process in the Ada community References: <3CB46975.90408@snafu.de> <5ee5b646.0204171415.18ac5e85@posting.google.com> <99c4aee4a9ea33ca8fbe1e634b3b4f14.48257@mygate.mailgate.org> <1a976f56c5a59e7ee74d2030a5702737.48257@mygate.mailgate.org> <99D9RPZ2eANt@eisner.encompasserve.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit NNTP-Posting-Host: 64.48.223.16 X-Complaints-To: abuse@prodigy.net X-Trace: newssvr16.news.prodigy.com 1019140497 ST000 64.48.223.16 (Thu, 18 Apr 2002 10:34:57 EDT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 18 Apr 2002 10:34:57 EDT X-UserInfo1: Q[RGWGKAZC[[QEH]HBHF__TA[X_LPO@FQQ]ZMVMHQAVTUZ]CLNTCPFK[WDXDHV[K^FCGJCJLPF_D_NCC@FUG^Q\DINVAXSLIFXYJSSCCALP@PB@\OS@BITWAH\CQZKJMMD^SJA^NXA\GVLSRBD^M_NW_F[YLVTWIGAXAQBOATKBBQRXECDFDMQ\DZFUE@\JM Date: Thu, 18 Apr 2002 14:34:57 GMT Xref: archiver1.google.com comp.lang.ada:22724 Date: 2002-04-18T14:34:57+00:00 List-Id: Larry Kilgallen wrote: > > In article <1a976f56c5a59e7ee74d2030a5702737.48257@mygate.mailgate.org>, "Kent Paul Dolan" writes: > > "Larry Kilgallen" wrote:.. > > > >> ACT has experimented with several pragmas and attributes outside > >> the standard. What other ideas have been worked out and proven > >> in an Ada environment ? > > > > > > Sorry, but read your own words. Don't they scream "inbred" to you? > > No, think of it as an entrance examination. > > If you think something is useful, prove that it is useful in Ada. > By that, you will prove to us all that it is worth doing in Ada. > If even an advocate will not go to the effort to provide a worked > example, the idea cannot be presumed worthwhile. > > > xanthian, who would mildly suggest that ideas that have been worked out > > and proven in other programming language environments are at this point > > _much_ more important to Ada's future as a viable programming language, > > than merely rechurning stuff already known to work here. > > > > Again, if you don't provide in Ada the modern functionalities the > > students learn to value in school, they will turn away to the tools that > > do. > > The fact that something is taught in school does not automatically > make it worthwhile. The fact that it is attractive to students is > even less compelling. I am much more interested in Ada's effectiveness > than I am in its popularity. Certainly by far the most important, but if the language dies because of lack of responsiveness to market pressures, then who cares. -- Gary Scott mailto:scottg@flash.net mailto:webmaster@fortranlib.com http://www.fortranlib.com Support the GNU Fortran G95 Project: http://g95.sourceforge.net