From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 103376,ac39a12d5faf5b14 X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public X-Google-Thread: 11232c,877ba3d67e73c6c3 X-Google-Attributes: gid11232c,public X-Google-ArrivalTime: 2002-04-14 08:50:11 PST Path: archiver1.google.com!news1.google.com!newsfeed.stanford.edu!news-spur1.maxwell.syr.edu!news.maxwell.syr.edu!newsfeed00.sul.t-online.de!newsfeed01.sul.t-online.de!t-online.de!unlisys!news.snafu.de!boavista!nobody From: Michael Erdmann Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada,misc.misc Subject: Re: Rant! (was) Development process in the Ada community Date: Sun, 14 Apr 2002 17:44:34 +0200 Organization: [Posted via] Inter.net Germany GmbH Message-ID: <3CB9A3E2.7000909@snafu.de> References: <3CB46975.90408@snafu.de> <3CB77A6B.5090504@snafu.de> <184076622a7c648f157c56e417bd86d4.48257@mygate.mailgate.org> <3CB9375F.8040904@snafu.de> <3CB996A1.9AC94B3A@flash.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: tc08-n66-168.de.inter.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:0.9.8) Gecko/20020204 X-Accept-Language: en-us Xref: archiver1.google.com comp.lang.ada:22518 misc.misc:6303 Date: 2002-04-14T17:44:34+02:00 List-Id: Gary Scott wrote: > Michael Erdmann wrote: > >>Kent Paul Dolan wrote: >> >>>"Michael Erdmann" wrote: >>> >>> >>>>Kent Paul Dolan wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>>>The love of doing things one rigid way, with all decisions handed down >>>>> >>>>>from above, ran square into the software development community, which is >>>> >>>>>used to speedy and flexible growth in its tools. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>This has nothing to do with the DoD. >>>> >>>> >>>To the contrary, rigid, top down command structure with limited upwards >>>feedback is quintessentially a military organization model. No business >>>could long survive with a similarly rigid hierarchy. >>> >>> >>I am not so mutch experienced with the DoD, but to me it sounds >>like what you can often encounter in large companies and they are >>still dominating the market without alwys beeing always the technical >>leader in there domain. >> > > But leadership in the software world so often involves fads, reinvention > of the wheel and calling it by another name, etc. It's hard to sort > through sometimes as to what's truly a technical advance and what's > merely a regurgitation of something that was available in the 1970's on > an IBM mainframe (html-like text markup). I agree completly on what you are saying, the same thing in the context of different technologies has completly different impact (sgml/xml is a good example is think) But Ada 95 should support some of the common practices (like networking, dynamic lists...) through it's standard, avoiding us from reinventing the same common things in the same technical context (in this case Ada 95) all over again. For example with Ada you dont have to think about communication between tasks any more because the language supports it, before this you had the burden of implementing of selecting a tasking system. Regards M.Erdmann > >