From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 103376,ac39a12d5faf5b14 X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public X-Google-ArrivalTime: 2002-04-12 16:56:56 PST Path: archiver1.google.com!news1.google.com!newsfeed.stanford.edu!skynet.be!skynet.be!newsfeed00.sul.t-online.de!newsfeed01.sul.t-online.de!t-online.de!unlisys!news.snafu.de!boavista!nobody From: Michael Erdmann Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Subject: Re: Development process in the Ada community Date: Sat, 13 Apr 2002 01:59:34 +0200 Organization: [Posted via] Inter.net Germany GmbH Message-ID: <3CB774E6.8010800@snafu.de> References: <3CB46975.90408@snafu.de> <3CB516E1.9030008@snafu.de> NNTP-Posting-Host: tc08-n66-173.de.inter.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:0.9.8) Gecko/20020204 X-Accept-Language: en-us Xref: archiver1.google.com comp.lang.ada:22470 Date: 2002-04-13T01:59:34+02:00 List-Id: Marin David Condic wrote: > I would agree that there needs to be stability around what might be called > the "core" language. Certainly the 13 chapters of the ARM and possibly > around the appendices as well. (Although I think it might be a benefit to be > able to add to the appendices a little more easily to gain language > extension without undue instability for the compiler writers.) I guess a public process imvoling the open source community as well would help to achieve this. > > But to look at Java and ask "what's good about what they are doing?" is > important as well. Having a large library of support code that works to > create a whole portable development environment might just be A Good Thing. > Perhaps if the Ada standard process found a way of talking about "standard" > libraries and incorporating them into the Ada language in some kind of > semi-official way (with undue burdens or delays) it might help Ada find > wider acceptance through the leverage it would offer to developers. Again i like to say i dont like what java is!!!!! The important point is that they have established a public process to improve there development environment, which i think is missing in the Ada community!!! Regards M.Erdmann > > MDC > -- > Marin David Condic > Senior Software Engineer > Pace Micro Technology Americas www.pacemicro.com > Enabling the digital revolution > e-Mail: marin.condic@pacemicro.com > > > "Eric G. Miller" wrote in message > news:pan.2002.04.11.01.38.30.887865.26212@jps-nospam.net... > >>How many changes in the Java language have occurred in the last ten >>years? How many are fully backwards compatible? Java aims to be >>a whole platform, but it's a moving target. What about developers >>who want their libraries and programs to be relevant for more than >>a couple years? IMHO, rapidly changing languages present a double >>edged sword. >> >>I think the goals of the two languages are somewhat orthogonal. I >>don't think there will ever be a "one size fits all" language. >>The safety and security features of Ada are very important to >>some folks, for instance. >> >>Oh, btw, this "outdated mode" of standardization is one thing that >>drew me to start using Ada vs. something like Java [tm], which is >>owned by Sun. >> > >