From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 103376,db9a11afb3da4240 X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public X-Google-Thread: 102b75,501ec19d1d81daee X-Google-Attributes: gid102b75,public X-Google-ArrivalTime: 2002-04-04 09:07:01 PST Path: archiver1.google.com!news1.google.com!newsfeed.stanford.edu!news-spur1.maxwell.syr.edu!news.maxwell.syr.edu!tor-nx1.netcom.ca!news1.tor.metronet.ca!nnrp1.tor.metronet.ca!not-for-mail Message-ID: <3CAC8552.5060107@home.com> From: "Warren W. Gay VE3WWG" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.0; en-US; rv:0.9.4) Gecko/20011128 Netscape6/6.2.1 X-Accept-Language: en-us MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: comp.arch,comp.lang.ada Subject: Re: Language support for flexible handling of system-detected errors. References: <3CA0A166.501E1D68@despammed.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Thu, 04 Apr 2002 16:54:44 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 198.96.47.195 NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 04 Apr 2002 09:54:44 MDT Organization: MetroNet Communications Group Inc. Xref: archiver1.google.com comp.arch:26417 comp.lang.ada:22106 Date: 2002-04-04T16:54:44+00:00 List-Id: Ketil Malde wrote: > "Marin David Condic" writes: > >>that changes the fact that MSVC++ provides navigation, GUI building, >>class libraries, debugging, building, etc., all together in one >>convenient package > > Now, if only it *worked*. > > (I always hated the way it often failed to find function definitions, > how the class view took ages to scroll, how the pop-up boxes sometimes > worked, sometimes not, and sometimes were just annoyingly slow, how > Source Safe screwed up merges, etc etc) > > -kzm Part of "that" problem is actually due to the underlying language begin supported. Ada is easily supported by an IDE because there are no _macros_ in the language to obscure what's behind them. Visual Studio has to lean on specially formatted (and ugly!) comments everywhere. Add to that, the fact that MuckySoft has a fetish for C macros. This leaves you with a recipe for a "can't win" scenario in an IDE. But this is consistent with their "good enough" philosophy. I just don't agree that it is good enough. -- Warren W. Gay VE3WWG http://home.cogeco.ca/~ve3wwg