From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 102b75,501ec19d1d81daee X-Google-Attributes: gid102b75,public X-Google-Thread: 103376,db9a11afb3da4240 X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public X-Google-ArrivalTime: 2002-03-23 16:46:56 PST Path: archiver1.google.com!news1.google.com!newsfeed.stanford.edu!news-spur1.maxwell.syr.edu!news.maxwell.syr.edu!wn1feed!worldnet.att.net!135.173.83.55!bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net.POSTED!not-for-mail Message-ID: <3C9D2202.7030200@worldnet.att.net> From: Jim Rogers User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win98; en-US; rv:0.9.4) Gecko/20011128 Netscape6/6.2.1 X-Accept-Language: en-us MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: comp.arch,comp.lang.ada Subject: Re: Language support for flexible handling of system-detected errors. References: < Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Sun, 24 Mar 2002 00:46:55 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 12.86.33.137 X-Complaints-To: abuse@worldnet.att.net X-Trace: bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net 1016930815 12.86.33.137 (Sun, 24 Mar 2002 00:46:55 GMT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 24 Mar 2002 00:46:55 GMT Organization: AT&T Worldnet Xref: archiver1.google.com comp.arch:25783 comp.lang.ada:21598 Date: 2002-03-24T00:46:55+00:00 List-Id: Adam Tissa wrote: > Actually, many of these systems now use C or C++ because of: > > 1. Management reluctance to approve the use of a dying language. > ( Heck, how many new projects are done in COBOL ? ) > 2. Difficulty finding and hiring Ada programmers. Actually, management usually has no knowledge of Ada whatsoever. They choose C or C++ because they have always used C or C++. There seems to have been no difficulty for management to choose Java, even when it was a new and unproven technology. At that time they had difficulty finding and hiring knowledgeable Java programmers, but that was not an issue. IMHO the issue is not the difficulty of hiring talent. Good programmers can be retrained to any language. The issue is technology fads. When you consider dying languages you should add C to that list. Clearly its usage as a percent of all new development has dropped dramatically over the past 10 years. It is not being taught in universities any more. In fact, C++ is seldom taught in universities any more. Both languages must be dying, just like Ada. Just ask the acknowledged software leaders such as Microsoft. They will tell you that only C# and the .NET technologies have any future. This is clearly a marketing position, yet many managers will accept it as fact because they do not know or care to know, the truth. Jim Rogers