From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 103376,da46977c58c329df X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public X-Google-ArrivalTime: 2002-02-01 19:21:50 PST Message-ID: <3C5B659A.7BAADE49@greenlime.com> Date: Sat, 02 Feb 2002 12:05:46 +0800 From: Adrian Hoe Organization: Lexical Integration (M) Sdn Bhd X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7C-CCK-MCD Caldera Systems OpenLinux [en] (X11; I; Linux 2.2.10 i586) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Subject: Re: Ada's Slide To Oblivion ... References: <3C58AE09.7070503@worldnet.att.net> <3C5A8A09.95084CAD@baesystems.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit NNTP-Posting-Host: mlk-172-52.tm.net.my X-Original-NNTP-Posting-Host: mlk-172-52.tm.net.my X-Trace: news.tm.net.my 1012619810 mlk-172-52.tm.net.my (2 Feb 2002 11:16:50 +0800) Path: archiver1.google.com!news1.google.com!newsfeed.stanford.edu!news-spur1.maxwell.syr.edu!news.maxwell.syr.edu!newsfeed.cwix.com!news1.tm.net.my Xref: archiver1.google.com comp.lang.ada:19514 Date: 2002-02-02T12:05:46+08:00 List-Id: Marin David Condic wrote: > > Like I said - it depends on what you want to count. We could discuss that > until the cows come home. Clearly, some consumer-oriented box with 5000 > lines of C code in it is not really in the same league with an F-22 with > millions of lines of Ada code in it. But last I heard the government was > only going to buy a few hundred F-22s over the project life whereas the > little 5000 line C doohickie might be selling in the millions of units. So > which is the more "important" project and how would you stack them up with > respect to which is the more "important" programming language for embedded > systems? > > I still don't think that any way you want to count it that Ada is going to > score as a major player in the embedded computing world anymore. It's kind > of relegated to the "also ran" category - which is a shame because lots of > people will admit that it really is a good language for embedded computing. > There are just a lot of factors that hinder its success in this area. > > I think that as Ada continues to grow in the non-embedded fields it will > start encouraging more usage in the embedded world. Tools become more > prevalent and experience builds with it and along the way it will trickle > into the embedded world. But it will be a slow process and it is dependent > on how successfully Ada penetrates the more "normal" sorts of application > development. More people are accepting Ada now, at least in my company (new staff). Ada will not have the glory of other development tools eg. C++ Builder, Delphi, etc. until much bindings are available for programmers' disposal. GtkAda and Glade are just the beginning. There is still a long way to go for Ada to be accepted in the non-embedded, business applications area. > MDC -- -- Adrian Hoe -- http://greenlime.com/users/adrian.hoe