From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 103376,da46977c58c329df X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public X-Google-ArrivalTime: 2002-01-31 10:54:08 PST Path: archiver1.google.com!news1.google.com!newsfeed.stanford.edu!news-spur1.maxwell.syr.edu!news.maxwell.syr.edu!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!cambridge1-snf1.gtei.net!news.gtei.net!bos-service1.ext.raytheon.com!bos-service2.ext.raytheon.com.POSTED!not-for-mail Message-ID: <3C598DAB.80F0DC4C@gbr.msd.ray.com> From: Steve O'Neill X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (X11; U; SunOS 5.7 sun4u) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Subject: Re: Ada's Slide To Oblivion ... References: <4519e058.0201310714.650888e1@posting.google.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Thu, 31 Jan 2002 13:32:11 -0500 NNTP-Posting-Host: 192.199.125.138 X-Complaints-To: news@ext.ray.com X-Trace: bos-service2.ext.raytheon.com 1012501932 192.199.125.138 (Thu, 31 Jan 2002 13:32:12 EST) NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 31 Jan 2002 13:32:12 EST Organization: Raytheon Company Xref: archiver1.google.com comp.lang.ada:19435 Date: 2002-01-31T13:32:11-05:00 List-Id: Marin David Condic wrote: > > I really think Ada 83 was just *waaaaay* ahead of its time. Back in > > the 80's and early 90's you'd quite often hear people seriously argue > > *against* type checking. These days that's pretty rare (see some of > > Eric Raymond's writings, if you want a trip back in that particular > > way-back machine). Now that folks are using Java and C++ regularly and > > can see for themselves the benifits to compile-time checking and > > object-oriented design, suddenly Ada doesn't look so bad any more. > > > It was waaaaay ahead of its time. Generics and Tasking were barely > understood by the compiler writers. Also ahead of the necessary hardware to > run the compiler or the resultant code. But it did succeed in dragging > compiler technology ahead. Yes, compiler knowledge owes a lot to Ada. It's interesting (and painful) to repeatedly find myself in classes and presentations now that talk about the 'new' and 'advanced' concepts introduced by C++ and Java. Many, if not most, of these concepts are the result of the advances forced by Ada. Arghhh! Steve