From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 103376,da46977c58c329df X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public X-Google-ArrivalTime: 2002-01-31 10:28:15 PST Path: archiver1.google.com!news1.google.com!newsfeed.stanford.edu!bloom-beacon.mit.edu!nycmny1-snh1.gtei.net!cambridge1-snf1.gtei.net!news.gtei.net!bos-service1.ext.raytheon.com!bos-service2.ext.raytheon.com.POSTED!not-for-mail Message-ID: <3C598CBD.71740E0D@gbr.msd.ray.com> From: Steve O'Neill X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (X11; U; SunOS 5.7 sun4u) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Subject: Re: Ada's Slide To Oblivion ... References: <3C58AE09.7070503@worldnet.att.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Thu, 31 Jan 2002 13:28:13 -0500 NNTP-Posting-Host: 192.199.125.138 X-Complaints-To: news@ext.ray.com X-Trace: bos-service2.ext.raytheon.com 1012501694 192.199.125.138 (Thu, 31 Jan 2002 13:28:14 EST) NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 31 Jan 2002 13:28:14 EST Organization: Raytheon Company Xref: archiver1.google.com comp.lang.ada:19431 Date: 2002-01-31T13:28:13-05:00 List-Id: Marin David Condic wrote: > It would help Ada in the embedded world if there were more SBCs available > with at least Ada as an option for compiler choice. If, for example, the SBC > were to come with the gcc/Gnat compiler built so that developers could > choose to use C, C++ or Ada & still have access to all the development > tools, it might stand a chance. Yes, that would improve the situation immensely. People might actually consider Ada is they were handed the tools along with the hardware. Of course, many of those folks would simply dismiss it out of hand but the more open-minded folks might actually try it... and like it. > But look at what ships with most SBC development kits: Some version of C or > maybe C++. Well.. how do we fix this? Probably the first steps are to 1) assemble the tools/ components necessary to support a family of SBCs and 2) convince the SBC vendors to 'toss it in the box'. To have any hope step #2 would have to be at worst free to the vendors. > Never mind that if someone *really* wanted to use Ada, they could cobble > together a kit for themselves out of parts available from the Internet. Yes, but people usually 1) take the path of least effort and 2) use what they are already familiar with and/or already have in hand. > Spending weeks or months getting a development environment together > when one already comes with the kit is a waste of the stockholder's money. Not to mention usually thankless work. Just my $0.02 worth Steve O'Neill