From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,FREEMAIL_FROM autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: f4fd2,23202754c9ce78dd X-Google-Attributes: gidf4fd2,public X-Google-Thread: fac41,15edb893ef79e231 X-Google-Attributes: gidfac41,public X-Google-Thread: 114809,15edb893ef79e231 X-Google-Attributes: gid114809,public X-Google-Thread: 103376,15edb893ef79e231 X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public X-Google-ArrivalTime: 2002-01-22 14:08:45 PST Path: archiver1.google.com!news1.google.com!newsfeed.stanford.edu!news-spur1.maxwell.syr.edu!news.maxwell.syr.edu!newsgate.cistron.nl!news2.euro.net!uunet!ash.uu.net!spool0900.news.uu.net!reader0901.news.uu.net!not-for-mail Message-ID: <3C4DE2F3.9020904@mail.com> Date: Tue, 22 Jan 2002 17:08:51 -0500 From: Hyman Rosen User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; WinNT4.0; en-US; rv:0.9.7+) Gecko/20010929 X-Accept-Language: en-us MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: comp.lang.lisp,comp.lang.ada,comp.lang.eiffel,comp.lang.smalltalk Subject: Re: True faiths ( was Re: The true faith ) References: <%njZ7.279$iR.150960@news3.calgary.shaw.ca> <3c36fbc5_10@news.newsgroups.com> <4idg3u40ermnp682n6igc5gudp7hajkea9@4ax.com> <76be8851.0201101909.9db0718@posting.google.com> <9jtu3u8cq92b05j47uat3412tok6hqu1ki@4ax.com> <3C3F8689.377A9F0F@brising.com> <3219936759616091@naggum.net> <3C483CE7.D61D1BF@removeme.gst.com> <7302e4fa4a.simonwillcocks@RiscPC.enterprise.net> <3C4D9B03.60803@mail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Organization: KBC Financial Products Cache-Post-Path: master.nyc.kbcfp.com!unknown@mosquito.nyc.kbcfp.com X-Cache: nntpcache 2.3.3 (see http://www.nntpcache.org/) NNTP-Posting-Host: 204.253.250.10 X-Trace: 1011737336 reader1.ash.ops.us.uu.net 12282 204.253.250.10 Xref: archiver1.google.com comp.lang.lisp:25009 comp.lang.ada:19198 comp.lang.eiffel:5500 comp.lang.smalltalk:18479 Date: 2002-01-22T17:08:51-05:00 List-Id: Bruce Hoult wrote: > Garbage collection has a *lot* to do with this problem! > > A large proportion of assignments in languages such as C++ are done > merely in order to resolve the question of who owns an object and who is > responsible for eventually deleting it. > > With GC available, objects are seldom copied with pointers to them being > passed around instead. You don't care who "owns" the object, because it > just magically goes away when all the pointers to it get forgotten. You don't get to redefine the problem so that your favorite technique becomes the solution.