From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: fac41,15edb893ef79e231 X-Google-Attributes: gidfac41,public X-Google-Thread: f4fd2,23202754c9ce78dd X-Google-Attributes: gidf4fd2,public X-Google-Thread: 103376,15edb893ef79e231 X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public X-Google-Thread: 114809,15edb893ef79e231 X-Google-Attributes: gid114809,public X-Google-ArrivalTime: 2002-01-18 14:16:28 PST Path: archiver1.google.com!news1.google.com!newsfeed.stanford.edu!news-spur1.maxwell.syr.edu!news.maxwell.syr.edu!newsfeed.cwix.com!newsfeed1.cidera.com!Cidera!nyccyc01!news-out.nyc.rr.com!typhoon.nyc.rr.com.POSTED!not-for-mail Message-ID: <3C489F84.663B98D0@nyc.rr.com> From: Kenny Tilton X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.78 [en] (WinNT; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: comp.lang.lisp,comp.lang.ada,comp.lang.eiffel,comp.lang.smalltalk Subject: Re: True faiths ( was Re: The true faith ) References: <%njZ7.279$iR.150960@news3.calgary.shaw.ca> <3c36fbc5_10@news.newsgroups.com> <4idg3u40ermnp682n6igc5gudp7hajkea9@4ax.com> <76be8851.0201101909.9db0718@posting.google.com> <9jtu3u8cq92b05j47uat3412tok6hqu1ki@4ax.com> <3C3F8689.377A9F0F@brising.com> <3219936759616091@naggum.net> <3C483CE7.D61D1BF@removeme.gst.com> <3C48825D.4050805@mediaone.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Fri, 18 Jan 2002 22:14:17 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 66.108.26.20 X-Complaints-To: abuse@rr.com X-Trace: typhoon.nyc.rr.com 1011392057 66.108.26.20 (Fri, 18 Jan 2002 17:14:17 EST) NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 18 Jan 2002 17:14:17 EST Organization: Road Runner - NYC Xref: archiver1.google.com comp.lang.lisp:24692 comp.lang.ada:19080 comp.lang.eiffel:5461 comp.lang.smalltalk:18180 Date: 2002-01-18T22:14:17+00:00 List-Id: > > Marc Spitzer wrote: > > > The problem with very good or even > > worse great programmers is that you need to find more people like that > > to replace them, no, you only think you do. then your average programmer looks at the code for a week and before you can set up the first interview ms/mr average says "looks pretty straightforward to me, i can maintain this." otoh, if mr/ms average gives up on the mess, the dearly departed most assuredly was not great nor even very good. early on in my career i heard a line that puzzled me until i saw OPC: "if you have an indispensible programmer, fire them." kenny clinisys