From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: fac41,15edb893ef79e231 X-Google-Attributes: gidfac41,public X-Google-Thread: f4fd2,23202754c9ce78dd X-Google-Attributes: gidf4fd2,public X-Google-Thread: 103376,15edb893ef79e231 X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public X-Google-Thread: 114809,15edb893ef79e231 X-Google-Attributes: gid114809,public X-Google-ArrivalTime: 2002-01-18 07:36:51 PST Path: archiver1.google.com!news1.google.com!newsfeed.stanford.edu!canoe.uoregon.edu!hammer.uoregon.edu!skates!not-for-mail From: Bob Bane Newsgroups: comp.lang.lisp,comp.lang.ada,comp.lang.eiffel,comp.lang.smalltalk Subject: Re: True faiths ( was Re: The true faith ) Date: Fri, 18 Jan 2002 10:19:03 -0500 Organization: NASA Goddard Space Flight Center (skates.gsfc.nasa.gov) Message-ID: <3C483CE7.D61D1BF@removeme.gst.com> References: <%njZ7.279$iR.150960@news3.calgary.shaw.ca> <3c36fbc5_10@news.newsgroups.com> <4idg3u40ermnp682n6igc5gudp7hajkea9@4ax.com> <76be8851.0201101909.9db0718@posting.google.com> <9jtu3u8cq92b05j47uat3412tok6hqu1ki@4ax.com> <3C3F8689.377A9F0F@brising.com> <3219936759616091@naggum.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: danville.gsfc.nasa.gov Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: skates.gsfc.nasa.gov 1011367401 19326 128.183.8.26 (18 Jan 2002 15:23:21 GMT) X-Complaints-To: dscoggin@cne-odin.gsfc.nasa.gov NNTP-Posting-Date: 18 Jan 2002 15:23:21 GMT X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.75 [en] (X11; U; HP-UX B.10.20 9000/735) X-Accept-Language: en Xref: archiver1.google.com comp.lang.lisp:24639 comp.lang.ada:19049 comp.lang.eiffel:5447 comp.lang.smalltalk:18124 Date: 2002-01-18T15:23:21+00:00 List-Id: I was particularly impressed with his last paragraph in the second article. For some reason, he doesn't conclude that there's something wrong with C++. Can't imagine why... ---------BEGIN-QUOTE----------- I don't know about you, but there's something really scary to me about a language where copying state from one object to another is this complicated. By now, I suspect at least a dozen or two programmers have contributed something new to this discussion. If it takes this many programmers to write a simple assignment operator, think how complicated writing code that actually does something meaningful must be! -- Remove obvious stuff to e-mail me. Bob Bane