From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,FREEMAIL_FROM autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 103376,25aa3c7e1b59f7b5 X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public X-Google-ArrivalTime: 2002-01-03 15:06:55 PST Path: archiver1.google.com!news1.google.com!newsfeed.stanford.edu!news-spur1.maxwell.syr.edu!news.maxwell.syr.edu!nntp.abs.net!uunet!dca.uu.net!ash.uu.net!spool0900.news.uu.net!reader0900.news.uu.net!not-for-mail Message-ID: <3C34E43E.5070906@mail.com> Date: Thu, 03 Jan 2002 18:07:42 -0500 From: Hyman Rosen User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; WinNT4.0; en-US; rv:0.9.7+) Gecko/20011228 X-Accept-Language: en-us MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Subject: Re: A case where Ada defaults to unsafe? References: <3C34BF2C.6030500@mail.com> <3C34D252.4070307@mail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Organization: KBC Financial Products Cache-Post-Path: master.nyc.kbcfp.com!unknown@mosquito.nyc.kbcfp.com X-Cache: nntpcache 2.3.3 (see http://www.nntpcache.org/) NNTP-Posting-Host: 204.253.250.10 X-Trace: 1010099211 reader0.ash.ops.us.uu.net 16351 204.253.250.10 Xref: archiver1.google.com comp.lang.ada:18498 Date: 2002-01-03T18:07:42-05:00 List-Id: Ted Dennison wrote: > In article <3C34D252.4070307@mail.com>, Hyman Rosen says... > >>But get away from C/C++ for a moment. In pure Ada terms, isn't it less safe >>for the defaults to be "and" and "or" instead of "and then" and "or else"? >> > > Perhaps for ex-C programmers it is. But that's certianly not the only pitfall in > the language for ex-C programmers. > > If you were instead brought up to believe that boolean "and" is communitive, > like they teach in math/logic classes, then it makes perfect sense. In that > case, "and then" is just a nice shorthand for " then if ... then". You haven't answered my question, though. Isn't the commutative semantic less safe than the short circuit one?