From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 103376,a644fa9cd1a3869a X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public X-Google-ArrivalTime: 2001-11-10 14:17:51 PST Path: archiver1.google.com!news1.google.com!newsfeed.stanford.edu!logbridge.uoregon.edu!newsfeed.direct.ca!look.ca!newsfeed1.earthlink.net!newsfeed.earthlink.net!newsmaster1.prod.itd.earthlink.net!newsread2.prod.itd.earthlink.net.POSTED!not-for-mail Message-ID: <3BEDA7FD.3C10C222@acm.org> From: Jeffrey Carter X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Subject: Re: List container strawman 1.2 References: <3BECA3B7.5020702@telepath.com> <9sjf4n$odm$1@news.huji.ac.il> <3mcH7.20046$xS6.32571@www.newsranger.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Sat, 10 Nov 2001 22:17:59 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 209.86.204.165 X-Complaints-To: abuse@earthlink.net X-Trace: newsread2.prod.itd.earthlink.net 1005430679 209.86.204.165 (Sat, 10 Nov 2001 14:17:59 PST) NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 10 Nov 2001 14:17:59 PST Organization: EarthLink Inc. -- http://www.EarthLink.net X-Received-Date: Sat, 10 Nov 2001 14:13:48 PST (newsmaster1.prod.itd.earthlink.net) Xref: archiver1.google.com comp.lang.ada:16251 Date: 2001-11-10T22:17:59+00:00 List-Id: Ted Dennison wrote: > > In article <9sjf4n$odm$1@news.huji.ac.il>, Ehud Lamm says... > > > >If I am seeing correctly we are still stuck with the library level > >instantiation bussiness. > >I must say that it seems to me that I'd rather ditch the Controlled type, > >and remove this obstacle. > > > >Don't others detest this as much as I do? > > Well, as I remember the discussion last time, to get rid of that you'd have to > get rid of the functional notation (by making List limited). The general > consensus seemed to be that this was undesirable. I'd prefer both a limited list type and a limited Element type, but even then the list type must be controlled. In any case, a standard component library must be suitable for industrial use, and structures that don't initialize and finalize themselves don't measure up. -- Jeff Carter "Son of a window-dresser." Monty Python & the Holy Grail