From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.3 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00, REPLYTO_WITHOUT_TO_CC autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 103376,2def9aa85afa5d22 X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public X-Google-ArrivalTime: 2001-10-31 20:42:46 PST Path: archiver1.google.com!news1.google.com!sn-xit-02!supernews.com!newsfeed.direct.ca!look.ca!newsfeed1.earthlink.net!newsfeed2.earthlink.net!newsfeed.earthlink.net!news.mindspring.net!not-for-mail From: Richard Riehle Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Subject: Re: Joint Strike Fighter Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2001 20:46:16 -0800 Organization: AdaWorks Software Engineering Message-ID: <3BE0D398.55DE833@adaworks.com> References: <3BDCE159.39F6D422@adaworks.com> <3BDD9800.F922885A@lmco.com> Reply-To: richard@adaworks.com NNTP-Posting-Host: 9e.fc.cc.9c Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Server-Date: 1 Nov 2001 04:42:06 GMT X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en Xref: archiver1.google.com comp.lang.ada:15526 Date: 2001-11-01T04:42:06+00:00 List-Id: Paul A Storm wrote: > Richard Riehle wrote: > > > Now that LMCO has been awarded the contract for > > JSF, does anyone know if the original plan to do the > > software in Ada remains unchanged? > > > > Richard Riehle > > Ada use is alive and well here at LMCO. Paul. Yes, I know that many well-informed managers continue to select Ada for their projects. I have had the pleasure of working with many of those managers and their people. In fact, the quality of LMCO software people, in my experience, has been exceptional and gratifying. Of course, in any organization, there are many different criteria used in decision-making process. We must be fair and assume that the criteria used to select C++ for certain projects was carefully considered and seriously taken. The concern among those in this forum is, I hope, that the best decisions are being taken with regard to the safety-critical software being developed for DoD weapon systems. I have no doubt of the sincerity and commitment of those making the decisions. However, some in this forum seem to suggest that factors such as resume enhancement play too great a role in the final decision. One would hope that is not the case, and most of the LMCO managers that I know are wiser than that. We need to beware of letting our biases in favor of Ada influence our opinions about people we don't know, and realize that our skepticism is, for the most part, conjecture that follows from those biases. I admit that I am all too often guilty of this myself. No responsible manager is going to let anything but the quality of the end product determine what tools and processes to select in building that product. That being said, I believe the vast majority of managers at LMCO are responsible and concientious people. The language decision for JSF will have had a lot of input from a lot of informed people. Also, those at LMCO I have talked with are committed to quality products regardless of what language is used for the coding. Yes, it is disappointing when we learn that Ada was pre-empted by C++. Yes, we in this forum believe Ada is superior to C++ for the building of weapon systems. No, language selection is not an exact science. Reasonable people disagree all the time about this issue. Richard Riehle