From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 103376,1cf653444208df72 X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public X-Google-ArrivalTime: 2001-10-10 09:46:38 PST Path: archiver1.google.com!news1.google.com!newsfeed.stanford.edu!newsfeed.berkeley.edu!ucberkeley!newsfeed.direct.ca!look.ca!news1.tor.metronet.ca!nnrp1.tor.metronet.ca!not-for-mail Message-ID: <3BC47B6B.2070603@home.com> From: "Warren W. Gay VE3WWG" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.0; en-US; rv:0.9.2) Gecko/20010726 Netscape6/6.1 X-Accept-Language: en-us MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Subject: Re: ada vs. cpp References: <9pgr68$7pu1@news.cis.okstate.edu> <9phnic$9g5$1@nh.pace.co.uk> <5fkv7.134136$w7.19988807@news02.optonline.net> <9pmpk00a53@drn.newsguy.com> <9puvdc$225$1@nh.pace.co.uk> <3BC30621.BDF74138@worldnet.att.net> <9pv1c4$2vp$1@nh.pace.co.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2001 16:46:37 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 198.96.47.195 NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2001 10:46:37 MDT Organization: MetroNet Communications Group Inc. Xref: archiver1.google.com comp.lang.ada:14173 Date: 2001-10-10T16:46:37+00:00 List-Id: Marin David Condic wrote: > It would be interesting to see *some* implementations that provided garbage > collection. If for no other reason than to be able to compare overhead for > programs/algorithms with/without GC. I think we are in agreement that it > should not be made mandatory by the language standard. >... > Do you think there might be some body of potential Ada users out there who > would be enticed to use Ada if it had an implementation with garbage > collection? Just wondering if there might be some unexplored demand out > there... > > MDC There is/was a whole community of small businesses that ran on a form of "business BASIC". Micos BASIC and UNIX hosted "BASIX" comes to mind. While these are inferior languages for today's business programming, they served a real need -- that is, provided small business with simple to use/program "environments" in order to host database and business related processes in. I would dearly love to see an Ada based solution along this line, which not only included garbage collection, but also included easy to read/program database and GUI. I know the right IDE can go a long way towards this goal, but GC needs to be there, IMO. I also think that an interpreted Ada "subsystem" might better match a small business (or SOHO) situation. So I would think in the business/SOHO case (where Java is being tried these days), GC makes a lot of sense. Ada already supports sensible treatment for pointers, and GC just makes life that much easier for those that are only concerned about accounts, and not rocket science. -- Warren W. Gay VE3WWG http://members.home.net/ve3wwg