From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 103376,1cf653444208df72 X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public X-Google-ArrivalTime: 2001-10-06 09:53:21 PST Path: archiver1.google.com!news1.google.com!newsfeed.stanford.edu!logbridge.uoregon.edu!newsfeed.direct.ca!look.ca!wn1feed!worldnet.att.net!135.173.83.71!wnfilter1!worldnet-localpost!bgtnsc06-news.ops.worldnet.att.net.POSTED!not-for-mail Message-ID: <3BBF3713.737D9AAA@worldnet.att.net> From: James Rogers X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Subject: Re: ada vs. cpp References: <9pgr68$7pu1@news.cis.okstate.edu> <9phnic$9g5$1@nh.pace.co.uk> <5fkv7.134136$w7.19988807@news02.optonline.net> <9pmpk00a53@drn.newsguy.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Sat, 06 Oct 2001 16:53:20 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 12.86.33.67 X-Complaints-To: abuse@worldnet.att.net X-Trace: bgtnsc06-news.ops.worldnet.att.net 1002387200 12.86.33.67 (Sat, 06 Oct 2001 16:53:20 GMT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 06 Oct 2001 16:53:20 GMT Organization: AT&T Worldnet Xref: archiver1.google.com comp.lang.ada:13833 Date: 2001-10-06T16:53:20+00:00 List-Id: "MM@MM" wrote: > > Ada is good at the nity gritty stuff. The above shows the value of attributes > that comes with the language, and being able to use subranges. Neither > of which is part of c/c++ nor java. But all these languages are much more > popular than Ada. go figure. You express a common assumption in your paragraph above. That assumption is that most programmers have knowledge of Ada. My experience is quite the opposite of this assumption. I spend my days teaching new skills to software professionals. Most of my students want to learn Java for a number of reasons. Most frequently the reason is that their jobs will require them to use Java in the near future, or they need to know it NOW. When I casually mention work I have done in Ada, the overwhelming response is "I have never heard of that language." My conclusion is that Ada is a stealth language. It is one of the major languages in terms of usage, but the majority of software developers have never even heard of it. Nobody is going to choose a language they have never heard of. At a minimum they must encounter some reference to it first. The developments in recent years which have made Ada one of the languages included in some Linux distributions is very good for overall exposure to Ada. I am also hopeful that Western countries will develop a stronger cultural awareness to the possibilities of cyber terrorism. Such an awareness is needed to protect all forms of government and financial systems. When security becomes a primary concern Ada will become a welcome tool to achieve more secure results. Jim Rogers Colorado Springs, Colorado USA