From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 103376,5779979dbdeaa763 X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public X-Google-ArrivalTime: 2001-09-25 18:31:48 PST Path: archiver1.google.com!newsfeed.google.com!newsfeed.stanford.edu!bloom-beacon.mit.edu!howland.erols.net!feed2.news.rcn.net!rcn!chnws02.mediaone.net!chnws06.ne.mediaone.net!24.128.8.70!typhoon.ne.mediaone.net.POSTED!not-for-mail Message-ID: <3BB12F9C.DC208761@NOSPAMcompaq.com> From: Charlie McCutcheon X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.72 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Subject: Re: DEC Ada 3.4 on Tru64 5.1 References: <3BAA98F1.E40E3694@NOSPAMcompaq.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2001 01:31:04 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 66.31.159.102 X-Complaints-To: abuse@mediaone.net X-Trace: typhoon.ne.mediaone.net 1001467864 66.31.159.102 (Tue, 25 Sep 2001 21:31:04 EDT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 25 Sep 2001 21:31:04 EDT Organization: Road Runner Xref: archiver1.google.com comp.lang.ada:13376 Date: 2001-09-26T01:31:04+00:00 List-Id: If DEC Ada for Tru64 was still supported, I'm sure something would get fixed. DEC Ada didn't change however, the o/s environment changed, and Ada broke. Glad it still works for you. I don't remember the details any more (and I'm not at work to check on them), but I'm pretty sure at least one ACVC V1.11 validation test failed. I guessed at the time that significant work would've been needed to investigate and fix the problem seen. More information on current Compaq Ada products, and the Tru64 target retirement can be found at http://www.openvms.compaq.com/commercial/ada/ada_index.html. Charlie McCutcheon Compaq Ada project leader nickerson@pundit.ds.boeing.com wrote: > In article <3BAA98F1.E40E3694@NOSPAMcompaq.com>, > Charlie McCutcheon writes: > > |>No, sorry. DEC Ada has known problems with Tru64 5.0 and beyond. Major > |>releases of the operating system tend to break the product. > > my comment would be that you should emulate the OpenVMS commitment > that OS releases do not break user code - that would include an Ada > compiler; however given that the AdaRTL is (sort of) part of the OS > then it should have been fixed; > > the brand new 5.1a release notes do mention that the AdaRTL is > scheduled for removal - but even then it says "in a future release"; > > |>I did testing suggesting that it works on the various Tru64 4.0 versions > |>(last 4.0G?), I'm not sure if they are still available. > > I've got the releases but I also have a brand new DS20E running 5.1; > which is what I want to run on both my Tru64 machines; > > |>On top of that, DEC Ada for Tru64 is no longer supported, it was retired > |>over a year ago.(Compaq Ada is supported on OpenVMS VAX and Alpha however.) > > we have it and we still like it; > [personally speaking] we would have preferred a DEC/CPQ Ada95 compiler - > however that is an old story about a business decision; > > |>For Ada use on Tru64, we recommend an Ada 95 vendor, such as ACT/GNAT or > |>Rational. > |> > |>Charlie > > yes; we just didn't realize that retirement also meant that the OS > would so quickly break the compiler and render the license useless; > > --bn (Bart Nickerson) > nickerson@pundit.ds.boeing.com > (206) 662-0183