From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 103376,bc1361a952ec75ca X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public X-Google-ArrivalTime: 2001-08-25 13:28:38 PST Path: archiver1.google.com!newsfeed.google.com!newsfeed.stanford.edu!news-spur1.maxwell.syr.edu!news.maxwell.syr.edu!newsxfer.eecs.umich.edu!enews.sgi.com!coop.net!newsfeed1.global.lmco.com!svlnews.lmms.lmco.com!news1.lmtas.lmco.com!not-for-mail From: Gary Scott Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Subject: Re: Progress on AdaOS Date: Sat, 25 Aug 2001 15:00:40 -0500 Organization: LM Aeronautics Message-ID: <3B8803E8.C7E85E0E@lmtas.lmco.com> References: <9IFe7.12813$6R6.1221214@news1.cableinet.net> <9lghqu$ac6$1@nh.pace.co.uk> <3B7C3293.76F49097@home.com> <9lhefg$lgd$1@nh.pace.co.uk> <3B7D47F1.25D6FC78@boeing.com> <5ee5b646.0108171856.18631c4c@posting.google.com> <3B7F624B.7294D24F@acm.org> <9lr6je$5hj$1@nh.pace.co.uk> <9ltoi7$4is$1@nh.pace.co.uk> <3B82789B.8D195045@home.com> <9ltuo8$70n$1@nh.pace.co.uk> <3B829450.879B0396@home.com> <9m8m7s$9qe1@news.cis.okstate.edu> <3B87FDCB.CCCA0D8D@lmtas.lmco.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: CAA261517.lmtas.lmco.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.72 [en]C-CCK-MCD {C-UDP; LMTAS} (WinNT; U) X-Accept-Language: en,pdf Xref: archiver1.google.com comp.lang.ada:12420 Date: 2001-08-25T15:00:40-05:00 List-Id: Hi, Sorry, I meant to say around 100 VOS users rather than several 100. Gary Scott wrote: > > Hi, > > David Starner wrote: > > > > On 24 Aug 2001 20:31:15 -0500, Larry Kilgallen wrote: > > > In article <9m6isb$8201@news.cis.okstate.edu>, David Starner writes: > > > > > > Thus Linux wasn't it. I never saw BeOS or NexT -- perhaps they were it. > > > > I don't know what you consider major significant changes. From what > > I've read of NeXT, it was distinctly a Unix that's been mostly eclipsed > > by Linux. I've played a little with BeOS; it's a very nice system that's > > fairly distinct from other systems. It's not _quite_ dead yet - I believe > > you can still download a full personal version for ix86 from BeOS, if > > you have a Windows or Linux system sitting around. (See free.be.com). > > The API is C++; I don't know if you'll consider that better or worse than > > the more common C APIs. > > > > >> (The general public is _never_ in the mood to play with a new OS.) (For > > >> an analogy, would you buy a car where you steered with your feet? > > > > > > Yes, but for some of us, Unix is like steering with your feet. > > > I understand that David feels the opposite. My point is not > > > to win him over, but to point out there is no unanimity. > > > > There's no unanimity in computer people. The only numbers for VMS I could > > find on the WWW was a "hundreds of thousands" of users. Is there any non-Unix, > > non-Windows, non-Macintosh OSs out there bigger than VMS? Linux has 8 to 10 > > million users, Mac has probably three times that, and Windows probably has > > at least a couple hundred million users. Over 99.4% is pretty close to > > unanimity among the general public. > > MVS surely qualifies as surpassing VMS in total numbers of users, we > have several hundred thousands at my company alone (although some don't > realize that they're using it because it's hidden behind a nifty GUI). > Last estimate that I saw for VM was that there were 8 to 10 million > users world wide (similar figures for OS/2). I'm sure that's declined > (in both cases), but virtually every large company that has a mainframe > in their accounting department has a VM system in addition to MVS or > OS/390. But then, every OS survey I've seen conveniently discounts > mainframe usage altogether. We also have probably several hundred VOS > users in house (we may be the last ones in the known universe however). > > > > > -- > > David Starner - dstarner98@aasaa.ofe.org > > Pointless website: http://dvdeug.dhis.org > > "I don't care if Bill personally has my name and reads my email and > > laughs at me. In fact, I'd be rather honored." - Joseph_Greg