From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 103376,bc1361a952ec75ca X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public X-Google-ArrivalTime: 2001-08-25 12:49:54 PST Path: archiver1.google.com!news2.google.com!newsfeed.google.com!newsfeed.stanford.edu!paloalto-snf1.gtei.net!news.gtei.net!enews.sgi.com!coop.net!newsfeed1.global.lmco.com!svlnews.lmms.lmco.com!news1.lmtas.lmco.com!not-for-mail From: Gary Scott Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Subject: Re: Progress on AdaOS Date: Sat, 25 Aug 2001 14:34:35 -0500 Organization: LM Aeronautics Message-ID: <3B87FDCB.CCCA0D8D@lmtas.lmco.com> References: <9IFe7.12813$6R6.1221214@news1.cableinet.net> <9lghqu$ac6$1@nh.pace.co.uk> <3B7C3293.76F49097@home.com> <9lhefg$lgd$1@nh.pace.co.uk> <3B7D47F1.25D6FC78@boeing.com> <5ee5b646.0108171856.18631c4c@posting.google.com> <3B7F624B.7294D24F@acm.org> <9lr6je$5hj$1@nh.pace.co.uk> <9ltoi7$4is$1@nh.pace.co.uk> <3B82789B.8D195045@home.com> <9ltuo8$70n$1@nh.pace.co.uk> <3B829450.879B0396@home.com> <9m8m7s$9qe1@news.cis.okstate.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: CAA261517.lmtas.lmco.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.72 [en]C-CCK-MCD {C-UDP; LMTAS} (WinNT; U) X-Accept-Language: en,pdf Xref: archiver1.google.com comp.lang.ada:12419 Date: 2001-08-25T14:34:35-05:00 List-Id: Hi, David Starner wrote: > > On 24 Aug 2001 20:31:15 -0500, Larry Kilgallen wrote: > > In article <9m6isb$8201@news.cis.okstate.edu>, David Starner writes: > > > > Thus Linux wasn't it. I never saw BeOS or NexT -- perhaps they were it. > > I don't know what you consider major significant changes. From what > I've read of NeXT, it was distinctly a Unix that's been mostly eclipsed > by Linux. I've played a little with BeOS; it's a very nice system that's > fairly distinct from other systems. It's not _quite_ dead yet - I believe > you can still download a full personal version for ix86 from BeOS, if > you have a Windows or Linux system sitting around. (See free.be.com). > The API is C++; I don't know if you'll consider that better or worse than > the more common C APIs. > > >> (The general public is _never_ in the mood to play with a new OS.) (For > >> an analogy, would you buy a car where you steered with your feet? > > > > Yes, but for some of us, Unix is like steering with your feet. > > I understand that David feels the opposite. My point is not > > to win him over, but to point out there is no unanimity. > > There's no unanimity in computer people. The only numbers for VMS I could > find on the WWW was a "hundreds of thousands" of users. Is there any non-Unix, > non-Windows, non-Macintosh OSs out there bigger than VMS? Linux has 8 to 10 > million users, Mac has probably three times that, and Windows probably has > at least a couple hundred million users. Over 99.4% is pretty close to > unanimity among the general public. MVS surely qualifies as surpassing VMS in total numbers of users, we have several hundred thousands at my company alone (although some don't realize that they're using it because it's hidden behind a nifty GUI). Last estimate that I saw for VM was that there were 8 to 10 million users world wide (similar figures for OS/2). I'm sure that's declined (in both cases), but virtually every large company that has a mainframe in their accounting department has a VM system in addition to MVS or OS/390. But then, every OS survey I've seen conveniently discounts mainframe usage altogether. We also have probably several hundred VOS users in house (we may be the last ones in the known universe however). > > -- > David Starner - dstarner98@aasaa.ofe.org > Pointless website: http://dvdeug.dhis.org > "I don't care if Bill personally has my name and reads my email and > laughs at me. In fact, I'd be rather honored." - Joseph_Greg