From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 103376,bc1361a952ec75ca X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public X-Google-ArrivalTime: 2001-08-21 18:50:33 PST Path: archiver1.google.com!newsfeed.google.com!newsfeed.stanford.edu!paloalto-snf1.gtei.net!news.gtei.net!enews.sgi.com!newshub2.rdc1.sfba.home.com!news.home.com!news1.rdc2.on.home.com.POSTED!not-for-mail Message-ID: <3B830FE8.48FD19AC@home.com> From: "Warren W. Gay VE3WWG" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.75 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Subject: Re: Progress on AdaOS (Was: Re: How Ada could have prevented the Red References: <4a885870.0108112341.7ce02ac0@posting.google.com> <9l6pdo$rlo$1@newsg3.svr.pol.co.uk> <9IFe7.12813$6R6.1221214@news1.cableinet.net> <9lghqu$ac6$1@nh.pace.co.uk> <3B7C3293.76F49097@home.com> <9lhefg$lgd$1@nh.pace.co.uk> <3B7D47F1.25D6FC78@boeing.com> <5ee5b646.0108171856.18631c4c@posting.google.com> <3B7F624B.7294D24F@acm.org> <9lr6je$5hj$1@nh.pace.co.uk> <9ltoi7$4is$1@nh.pace.co.uk> <3B82789B.8D195045@home.com> <9luhj9$aai1@news.cis.okstate.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2001 01:50:33 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 24.141.193.224 X-Complaints-To: abuse@home.net X-Trace: news1.rdc2.on.home.com 998445033 24.141.193.224 (Tue, 21 Aug 2001 18:50:33 PDT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 21 Aug 2001 18:50:33 PDT Organization: Excite@Home - The Leader in Broadband http://home.com/faster Xref: archiver1.google.com comp.lang.ada:12202 Date: 2001-08-22T01:50:33+00:00 List-Id: David Starner wrote: > On Tue, 21 Aug 2001 15:05:00 GMT, Warren W. Gay VE3WWG wrote: > > Just to correct an earlier post : *BSD is the real _UNIX_ from years ago. > > It just took a while to have ports of it made available to the PC platform, > > but it is the real UNIX; while Linux is the UNIX-like O/S. The first > > socket implementation for TCP/IP was on BSD UNIX, for example. > > BSD is _not_ the real UNIX(tm), as the makers of BSD/OS found out when they > got sued for calling BSD/OS UNIX. Parts of BSD may have ended up in UNIX(tm) > and older versions of BSD may have been UNIX(tm), but every part of BSD that > was UNIX(tm) was removed and rewritten for the free releases. To the best of > my knowledge, no *BSD has ever been run through the (expensive) tests for > UNIX(tm) certification. I did completely ignore the UNIX trademark issue, and will continue to sidestep that here... but.. The *BSD variants of today, still have some of the original AT&T UNIX code in them, AFAIK. The first release of BSD was derived from AT&T UNIX Sixth Edition (V6). See http://www.unix-wizards.com/tree.html for a picture of the family tree. Note that FreeBSD derives from 386BSD 0.0, which derives from 4.3BSD NET/2, whose grandaddy is Sixth Edition (V6). > In any real sense, as opposed to a legal sense, I don't see why *BSD is any > more or less UNIX than Linux. Neither of them have real UNIX code, and both > mostly obey the Unix standards. I know what you're saying. But if you were a Hatfield, and your grandaddy was a Hatfield, you wouldn't want some McCoy coming along claiming to be a Hatfield ;-) Those would be "fighten words", as it often is when Linux enthusiasts are reminded of this. For further clarifications on this, I suggest a visit to www.freebsd.org. -- Warren W. Gay VE3WWG http://members.home.net/ve3wwg