From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,FREEMAIL_FROM autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 103376,7bcba1db9ed24fa7 X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public X-Google-ArrivalTime: 2001-07-10 23:48:51 PST Path: archiver1.google.com!newsfeed.google.com!sn-xit-02!sn-post-01!supernews.com!corp.supernews.com!not-for-mail From: Vinzent Hoefler Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Subject: RE: GVD bug list. Perhaps a better language is not enough.... Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2001 02:48:45 -0400 Organization: Posted via Supernews, http://www.supernews.com Message-ID: <3B7CA3AB@MailAndNews.com> X-InterChange-Posted-By: vinzent@MailAndNews.com Sender: Vinzent Hoefler X-EXP32-SerialNo: 50000000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Newsreader: InterChange (Hydra) News v3.61.08 X-Complaints-To: newsabuse@supernews.com Xref: archiver1.google.com comp.lang.ada:9771 Date: 2001-07-11T02:48:45-04:00 List-Id: Original Message From raj >On Mon, 9 Jul 2001 12:20:50 -0400, Vinzent Hoefler > wrote: >>But, hmm, quite long buglist for an Ada project *ouch* *NO, NO, NO, please >>don't beat me, it's just the big font!* > >Here is the GVD bug list. Perhaps a better language is not enough.... Oh oh, what have I done? :-( >http://libre.act-europe.fr/gvd/known-problems In truth, personally I think this list is quite short. I know the current wish/buglist of our still-in-development-Linux software (no, I won't post it, I want to keep my job ;), but let me tell you about it: Three years of C++ development, a main module will be completely revised a second time (just will cost around another CHF 100k+, but who cares?), no cross platform development (means: It will only run on Linux) and a working software (ok old DOS, but at least it works) with a lot of good code (ok, and a lot of bad and undocumented code, but this is getting better day by day :-) is already available as reference. This project wasn't written from scratch and the programmers working on this project had 2-4 years experience in maintaining the old one before the "we have to go with the time" sentence initiated this project. I won't say that this project is easier to develop than GVD, but believe me, after three years our buglist is *much* longer and the software is still only working in the lab, not in real production environment. And yes, you're right. Just having a better language is not enough. But: it helps very much. Just a good coding style alone can help. And, hmm, experience I don't have to mention explicitely, do I? All in all, I think we all know this: No software is free of bugs. Vinzent.