From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 103376,bc1361a952ec75ca X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public X-Google-Thread: 109fba,582dff0b3f065a52 X-Google-Attributes: gid109fba,public X-Google-ArrivalTime: 2001-08-16 20:42:01 PST Path: archiver1.google.com!newsfeed.google.com!newsfeed.stanford.edu!nntp.cs.ubc.ca!newsfeed.direct.ca!look.ca!newshub2.rdc1.sfba.home.com!news.home.com!news1.rdc2.on.home.com.POSTED!not-for-mail Message-ID: <3B7C9288.6CD8C288@home.com> From: "Warren W. Gay VE3WWG" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.75 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada,comp.lang.c++ Subject: Re: How Ada could have prevented the Red Code distributed denial of service attack. References: <3b690498.1111845720@news.worldonline.nl> <9kbu15$9bj@augusta.math.psu.edu> <9kbvsr$a02@augusta.math.psu.edu> <3B69DB35.4412459E@home.com> <9kp9n7$ivm$1@nh.pace.co.uk> <3B73337F.862F8D93@home.com> <9lb7hu$72h$1@norfair.nerim.net> <3B7C6977.3648F061@home.com> <3B7C79FA.89E62321@globetrotter.qc.ca> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Fri, 17 Aug 2001 03:42:01 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 24.141.193.224 X-Complaints-To: abuse@home.net X-Trace: news1.rdc2.on.home.com 998019721 24.141.193.224 (Thu, 16 Aug 2001 20:42:01 PDT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 16 Aug 2001 20:42:01 PDT Organization: Excite@Home - The Leader in Broadband http://home.com/faster Xref: archiver1.google.com comp.lang.ada:12032 comp.lang.c++:83312 Date: 2001-08-17T03:42:01+00:00 List-Id: Kaz Kylheku wrote: > In article <3B7C79FA.89E62321@globetrotter.qc.ca>, Chris Wolfe wrote: > >> But if you insist on calling sheep as goats, and goats as sheep, > >> then I give up. You win. > > > >On the basis of that tirade Natural, Positive, String and virtually > >every other useful object provided by Ada is not the Ada language. If > >it's required by the standard, it's part of the language. > > In fact, when you write your own procedures or functions, you are > extending the language to create a new dialect specific to your program. Rubbish. You are _using_ the language to create a translation (compiled output). When you can show the compiler's yacc grammer that specifically addresses specific aspects of the STL (ie. specific to certain class names), then you might have something. Until then, you are calling sheep goats. -- Warren W. Gay VE3WWG http://members.home.net/ve3wwg