From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 107f24,582dff0b3f065a52 X-Google-Attributes: gid107f24,public X-Google-Thread: 109fba,582dff0b3f065a52 X-Google-Attributes: gid109fba,public X-Google-Thread: 1014db,582dff0b3f065a52 X-Google-Attributes: gid1014db,public X-Google-Thread: 103376,bc1361a952ec75ca X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public X-Google-ArrivalTime: 2001-08-02 13:21:08 PST Path: archiver1.google.com!newsfeed.google.com!newsfeed.stanford.edu!canoe.uoregon.edu!cyclone1.gnilink.net!news-east.rr.com!news-west.rr.com!lsnws01.we.mediaone.net!cyclone-LA3.rr.com!typhoon.san.rr.com.POSTED!not-for-mail Message-ID: <3B69B401.98064667@san.rr.com> From: Darren New Organization: Boxes! X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.77 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada,comp.lang.c,comp.lang.c++,comp.lang.functional Subject: Re: How Ada could have prevented the Red Code distributed denial of service attack. References: <9kc355$ri0$1@nh.pace.co.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Thu, 02 Aug 2001 20:11:45 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 24.165.21.192 X-Complaints-To: abuse@rr.com X-Trace: typhoon.san.rr.com 996783105 24.165.21.192 (Thu, 02 Aug 2001 13:11:45 PDT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 02 Aug 2001 13:11:45 PDT Xref: archiver1.google.com comp.lang.ada:11132 comp.lang.c:71742 comp.lang.c++:79465 comp.lang.functional:7225 Date: 2001-08-02T20:11:45+00:00 List-Id: > The following text clearly tells us that the runtime checks (generating > the exception) were in place at least for this conversion. Nope. Read the report. > What made the Ariane design team take the view that "software should be > considered correct until it is shown to be at fault"? Fooled by to much > trust in Ada? Read the report. The code was in a device designed for the A4. Nobody from the A5 looked at the code. Somehow, I wouldn't imagine anyone building rockets has a great deal of blind trust in hardware *or* software. -- Darren New / Senior MTS & Free Radical / Invisible Worlds Inc. San Diego, CA, USA (PST). Cryptokeys on demand. dnew@san.rr.com Only a WIMP puts wallpaper on his desktop.